Sup! Honda Tech Here my exp with JDM clusters... I have a 97 civic ex sedan that i purchased about a year ago, because i totaled my car, so about six after i bought the car i hooked up with buddy who had a buddy who live in japan and he use to ship him super rare parts from japan, so anyways i bought a bunch of JDM goodies like ek sir headlights, amber clock and ek4 sir cluster Super rare!! hate to get rid of it. ok after installing all the parts ever was good until about 6 months after my car way hay wire my check engine light on and then suddenly my speedometer had a 3 sec. delay and finally failed after a while. so me being a technician i didn't really worry that much


steps i took to figure before taking it to dealer

-check fuses (no scanner)
-blown fuse 7.5 amp alt. sp
-replace and reset ECU (negative cable) and road tested about 30 miles no CEL and runs fine
-replace battery , cause its 7 years old
-new fuse and battery
-50 miles later CEL on
-suspecting speed sensor,cause that affects the speedometer no working
-called honda service to find out if any TSB or emission warranty d16y8 14 years or 140,00 miles
-finally rented a scanner from Autozone (160 deposit only)
-codes came vss,both o2 sensors and map sensor (emission warranty) ...


i drop it the following morning, they check it and replace the alt sp fuse (same ) with a 15 amp cleared and road testes and had it running the whole day. Shop foreman told that it wasn't a under warranty because the problem was the JDM CLUSTER!! when they did the some test on it with CEL off the readings were off because the JDM CLUSTER was NOT COMPATIBLE with the USDM harness. So at the end of all this i lost $138.50 for the diagnoses, but at least they wash my car. LOL... pick it up and swap the USDM cluster and the car was running fine again. i talked to the SHOP FOREMAN why it too so long for the CEL to come on? he said my USDM ECU kept trying to communicate with JDM CLUSTER, but after so many tries my ECU finally gave up. he said it's like a JAPANESE speaking to a AMERICAN who cant understand. FUNNY , BUT TRUE.


JDM FANATICS IF YOU WANT A TO PUT A JDM CLUSTER YOU NEED TO GET A JDM ECU WITH HARNESS

TALK TO PROFESSIONALS AT OPAK RACING SAN BRUNO CA, AND THEY HAD THE SAME PROBLEM, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THEY HAVE MORE TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO FIX PROBLEM. JAPANESE SCANNER..

LONG POST I KNOW,BUT HOPE THIS HELPS YOU GUYS OUT.

[i]Modified by superchill27 at 5:57 PM 2/29/2008




Modified by superchill27 at 6:09 PM 2/29/2008

 

I hate to say it .........

But everything you have said is wrong. 100% wrong.

 

yup he is wrong

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hate to say it .........

But everything you have said is wrong. 100% wrong.

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lol Well put. Truth

 

TOTALLY WRONG ......

I had a USDM clock in my JDM civic

 

thanks for your reply, but forgot to mention that since they put a higher amp fuse 15 i left the JDM CLUSTER IN thinking that it fixed it. i also have the JDM AMBER CLOCK TOO.. next day i drove my car and the clock set , turned it off after running errands and when i started it and the clock said 10:00pm when it was 3:00pm so even before the CEL had a chance to show up again eventually i swap the USDM CLUSTER back in and so far it's everything good


TRUST. didn't believe it either, but why would the CEL show up and give me emission codes and falls under warranty, but when the SHOP FOREMAN from HONDA diagnosed it said otherwise. if you know cars you know that a emission codes are hot map,o2 s and vss ect... and even you reset it will show up almost right away..

if anyone can tell me otherwise.. PLEASE.. cause i don't want to get rid of my JDM EK4 SIR CLUSTER

 

if you decide to get rid of it ...ill take it

 

sorry, local pick up only...

 

Those 4 codes usually come up when there is bare wires that are grounding themselves. The wires are under your intake manifold. Common on 6th gen civics. NOT saying the Honda guy is wrong,but that might be an issue also.

 

hahaha. if you actually believe that load of garbage that the "honda guy" was telling you then you should sell that cluster for cheap.

i've had the sir cluster, type r cluster, still got my spoon cluster. all of'em work fine.

 

I only read some of the stuff.

Try this, loosen the screws behind the gauges that don't work and retighten them. Don't overtighten.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superchill27 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for your reply, but forgot to mention that since they put a higher amp fuse 15 i left the JDM CLUSTER IN thinking that it fixed it. i also have the JDM AMBER CLOCK TOO.. next day i drove my car and the clock set , turned it off after running errands and when i started it and the clock said 10:00pm when it was 3:00pm so even before the CEL had a chance to show up again eventually i swap the USDM CLUSTER back in and so far it's everything good


TRUST. didn't believe it either, but why would the CEL show up and give me emission codes and falls under warranty, but when the SHOP FOREMAN from HONDA diagnosed it said otherwise. if you know cars you know that a emission codes are hot map,o2 s and vss ect... and even you reset it will show up almost right away..

if anyone can tell me otherwise.. PLEASE.. cause i don't want to get rid of my JDM EK4 SIR CLUSTER</TD></TR></TABLE>
The shop foreman doesn't give a **** about your super rare mad JDM parts. A LOT of "mechanics" might try to blame problems on modifications. That's just the way it is. It's an easy cop out and some people are easily fooled.

If what you said in the first post were true, there would be a whole lot more threads describing the same symptoms because there are a whole lot of people using USDM harnesses and ECUs with JDM clusters.

 

putting in a higher amp fuse is not solving the problem, eventually it will cause more.

you don't need a different harness. i had a eg6 cluster in my old hatch. a type cluster in my current hatch no problems.

if you wanna sell the cluster pm me a price ill take it.

 

read all the replies and everyone says i'm wrong, ill put it back it in see what happens.. thanks guys

fogot to mention cluster was in working condition when i receive it.

 

read all the replies and everyone says i'm wrong, ill put it back it in see what happens.. thanks guys

fogot to mention cluster was in working condition when i receive it.

 

Have you seen that exact cluster work in another car?

 

no i haven't, but i installed it earlier today so we'll see

 

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Those usually go for $70 shipped. Also, please wait until you're no longer a trial member and then post your for sale ad in the MarketPlace.

 

LOL @ this thread

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racehesh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those 4 codes usually come up when there is bare wires that are grounding themselves. The wires are under your intake manifold. Common on 6th gen civics. NOT saying the Honda guy is wrong,but that might be an issue also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I bet this is the problem, same happened to me.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superchill27 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i talked to the SHOP FOREMAN why it too so long for the CEL to come on? he said my USDM ECU kept trying to communicate with JDM CLUSTER, but after so many tries my ECU finally gave up. he said it's like a JAPANESE speaking to a AMERICAN who cant understand. FUNNY , BUT TRUE.


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Haaahah i cant believe a tech, or shop foreman would say this... a cluster just receives signals it would not make your car throw codes. You could not have the cluster in at all and the car will run the same.

 

sup! i had the back on for about 2 week now, and its running fine

idle's good to specs and i guess putting a higher amp fix the problem. it's ok, cause now i dont have to give up my cluster.. thanks guys..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superchill27 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sup! i had the back on for about 2 week now, and its running fine

idle's good to specs and i guess putting a higher amp fix the problem. it's ok, cause now i dont have to give up my cluster.. thanks guys.. </TD></TR></TABLE>


That's not a fix.

 

i got a type r cluster in my ek. no probs ever had it for like 5yrs