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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Default please help me out ls rods/ type r pistons in gsr block?

i ordered pistons on ebay and the person said they were 2000 integra pistons

well i get them tonight and they have pr4 rods (ls??) are they shorter than gsr rods??

these are supposed to go in a gsr block with blox stage 2 cams and supertech dual valve springs and retainers

my friend works at a machine shop but i dont know how to unpress the wrist pins to put on gsr rods

this is my first ever engine build HELP
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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anyone??
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Default Re: please help me out ls rods/ type r pistons in gsr block? (exotik4doorcivic)

The Rods will NOT work. LS has an 89mm stroke where-as the (1.8L) GSR has an 87 (same as ITR). I'm not sure of the exact rod lengths, but I believe the LS is a little longer than the GSR (how that works out, I dunno, I woulda thought it woulda been shorter because there's longer stroke but I believe it's actually longer, please correct me if I'm wrong b/c I'm going on what someone else told me). I would like to know the exact rod-length of the GSR or if someone has a TECH FAQ sheet of the specs of B-series motors (I remember seeing one a while back).
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Default Re: please help me out ls rods/ type r pistons in gsr block? (DUHC)

i read the ls rods are shorter so if installed them they would give me a lower compression ratio which i defeats the whole purpose of the type r pistons

i might just have to put my stock gsr rods in with the type r pistons

anyone know if its alright to remove the pistons to install them on my gsr rods?? it wont stress or crack my pistons when removing the pin right??
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Default Re: please help me out ls rods/ type r pistons in gsr block? (exotik4doorcivic)

no go on ls rods or their bolts, death at 9k to block
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Default Re: please help me out ls rods/ type r pistons in gsr block? (exotik4doorcivic)

Those PR4 rods(LS/B20 rods) with ITR pistons will go great in a GSR block if you have the LS/B20 crank to match. Don't use those rods and pistons though with your gsr crank. You can find a used LS or B20 crank for around $100, get yourself a Golden Eagle oil squirter plug kit so you can remove you stock oil squirters and plug up the holes so that the oil squirters won't hit the LS/B20 crank. You'll have yourself essentially a sleeper LSVtec just like my build and several others here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1837872
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA_9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no go on ls rods or their bolts, death at 9k to block</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, the stock LS rod bolts are the weakest link, but can easily be remedied w/ ARP Bolts, and balancing the crank and utilizing the stock GSR girldle will allow revs beyond 9K rpm, granted the motor even makes power that high.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, the stock LS rod bolts are the weakest link, but can easily be remedied w/ ARP Bolts, and balancing the crank and utilizing the stock GSR girldle will allow revs beyond 9K rpm, granted the motor even makes power that high.</TD></TR></TABLE>


This guy knows what he is talkin bout, agreed. My suggestion, sleeve it and go crazy.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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Sleeving if you can afford is a great way to make power, and you won't have a B20 stamp giving away what you got
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Default Re: please help me out ls rods/ type r pistons in gsr block? (all-mtr-teg)

im getting married and going to florida in june so i dont want to throw a ton of money in it the spare engine has around 108,000 on it im really just planning on doing a standard build nothing really crazy

i bought the blox b cams and supertech dual valve springs with titanium retainers already this combo should easily hold up to 9500 right?? with the type r pistons i should be at 10.8-11-1 compression im just worried about my rods

would it be fine to just use the gsr rods that are in the engine already, or should i think about shot peening the rods to hold up to 9500??

im planning on porting/ polishing the head along with a skunk2/blox im and throttle body for the head flow

let me know what you think
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Default Re: please help me out ls rods/ type r pistons in gsr block? (exotik4doorcivic)

Get some ARP rod bolts for sure, not matter what rods you decide to use so that you can rev to 9500 rpm w/o worries. But remember, if you use the GSR rods you must use the GSR crank, if you use the PR4 rods, you must use an LS/B20 crank. I would just have the ITR pistons removed from the PR4 rods and have them pressed onto your GSR rods, all you will need are new wrist pins versus an LS/B20 crank to use those PR4 rods.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Default Re: please help me out ls rods/ type r pistons in gsr block? (all-mtr-teg)

thanks for all the help, should i get the arp head studs too or do i not need those??

i know on sohc cam engines when you pulll the head off you have to use new ones
but not sure about dohc

and are the gsr and type r wrist pins the same??
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