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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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again, i can't find the thread like this one....but I'm still in high school and I just got myself a 95 honda del sol si as my daily driver. the problem is...it only has a d16z6. I would like to know whether i should get a b16, b18, or an h22 and still be cheap enough for a high schooler. i'm getting about 35 mpg on the d16. how's the mpg on the other ones? thanks
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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you can't find a thread about motors on honda tech.

you're funny! hah woooo, good one.

but seriously, whats your real question?
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Get one of these!



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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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sooo..... is there any real difference between them all?
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Only differencs are MPG, horsepower, torque, and baller points, which are inversely related. HP+TQ, and Baller points go up, while MPG goes down.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Well, if you bother to even read the first thread on the top of this forum -- you'd see "What swaps are available for ...?":

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/878010
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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i wanted live replies from experienced ppl. I know which ones are out there. I just wanna know the best one for me. i could throw any one of those in my car but i cant decide which one
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/878010

here it says every difference between any honda motorswap. installing a B-series is pretty much the same for each swap so all you need to do is figure out money and whats worth it to you.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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SR20 fo sho.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iBear &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SR20 fo sho.</TD></TR></TABLE>


rofl


when i read that, i almost had soda go out of my nose.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolf95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">again, i can't find the thread like this one....but I'm still in high school and I just got myself a 95 honda del sol si as my daily driver. the problem is...it only has a d16z6. I would like to know whether i should get a b16, b18, or an h22 and still be cheap enough for a high schooler. i'm getting about 35 mpg on the d16. how's the mpg on the other ones? thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>


well with any one of those motors that you named you're looking at atleast $2500-$3000 just for the complete motor swap. so that being said, how much money do you have to spend being that you're already looking for something that will be "cheap enough" for a high-school student. mpg varies a little bit from motor to motor but it really depends on how you drive. if you have a heavy foot and want to rev loud at other people you'll be spending more money on fuel than car parts. and don't say "it only has a d16z6"..for the amount of money you'd spend on a swap you can have that motor fully built and boosted and be ALOT faster than any stock B series...which is cooler in my opinion.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:35 AM
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i say boost your z6
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:42 AM
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only a d16? well at least u dont have a d15 like i do. No vtec -.- . go to hmotorsonline.com and look at the price range between the motors. b18c1 tends to be 1k more then the b16a2.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:58 AM
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I'm a fan of my GS-R, so that's my vote.

The B16 is torqueless IMO, and while the H22 is more powerful than the GS-R, you'll notice a drop in your MPG. I know that I average between 30-32 MPG in my GS-R swapped Civic, with mixed city/highway driving...and also depending on how I'm driving.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:15 AM
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Z6 on boost is probably your cheapest bet to go fast. Unless you're trying to get JDM points, then get a B16A
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg8tuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i say boost your z6</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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well i'm not gonna swap it too soon cuz i've got other things to pay for. How can a d series engine be faster than a b series??
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolf95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i'm not gonna swap it too soon cuz i've got other things to pay for. How can a d series engine be faster than a b series?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe you should just drive your stock d16 - read up on everything that you want to do to your car in the future, save up and then mod your car. if you are asking how a d series can be faster than a b series then you really need to research and learn alot more about this industry.

turbocharging a d series motor will make it faster than a b series
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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dude just check out youtube and type in d16 turbo into your search and that will answer your question
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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No, learn more about Honda motors before you consider doing other things.

A D can be faster than tons of things, Corvettes, Vipers, and even a H series! Only K if you're lucky
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Does anyone know any good research sites I can learn more from. I just jumped into the honda world 2 months ago and I love to learn more bout cars. so, my soch d16 can be faster than a DOHC h22?? If so, why are the Si's cheaper if they have faster engines?? so confused...
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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D16 on boost is just cheap and easy. It's a really small motor and people are always wanting to basically throw away their SOHC's so getting blocks/parts is pretty cheap. However you have to build it right and tune it right if you want to be pretty fast, but a stock D16 on about 10psi quite fast. I don't really know a lot about boost, but I do know D16 on boost is a great way to go.

However, H series and B series is more money, and H series isn't so much of a direct fit. And then K's are a whole other ball game. But for the most part, stick with your D until you learn more about want you really want, and until then, just search the internet for a bunch of different things, I don't remember how I picked up on everything, but I know I didn't do it on Honda-Tech, so just look for informational things that websites offer.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Get a B16b. it should solve all. lol
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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swap an RB26DETT ohh yeahhhh!!!!!
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolf95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i'm not gonna swap it too soon cuz i've got other things to pay for. How can a d series engine be faster than a b series?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Probot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbocharging a d series motor will make it faster than a b series</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2...IMO boost it. Its going to be cheaper than a swap and it will be faster than a lot of other cars, not just b series.
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