i ran a d16 vtec hatch and he took my off the hole(i have a ls with a cai and full exhaust with 2.75 inch pipping)people are telling me its cause i launch to high(i launch around 2.5 to 2.8) also he rufuses to run me off the 20. Im pretty sure ill take him off a 20 role, am i correct in saying that. Also i would like to know what you rpm you guys launch at?

 

Bench racing eh?

Why do you have 2.75" piping? That's far too big for a stock LS.

We cant answer your question. We have no idea your level of driving skill nor his. This is a huge factor. We dont know the weight of your car nor his. We dont know if you have crappy tires or ones with alot of grip. You could be on 20" for all we know. We dont know his engine mods. Is his engine built at all?

There is just too many variables.

However, I will say this; stock for stock with two equally skilled drivers - the Integra should win, but not by much at all.

 

i know that the piping is to big but i plan on haveing a fullybuilt ls do you think even when im done the piping will b to big still and what do you think i should have the pipping at now?

 

by the way my tires are shitty at the moment. he has skunk 2 pro street coilovers dragradios and some other supension work. Also he has an intake and an exhaust tip

 

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exhaust tip FTW!

 

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ahahaha. x2
Umm, dont fully build an ls, that would be wrong. You could build it and potentially break into the 200's but ud only get like 220 of a NA integra FULLY BUILT aka alot of money invested. Better idea: Go LS VTEC or better yet if you dont know much about HONDA, go with LS TURBO. If your engine is good and u have good compression, id boost it, for sure.

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA_9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> boost it, for sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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you are so contradicting. make up your mind. na is a good idea if you want reliability. boost is good if your gonna have money in the future because if your like me, 8 psi was just not enough. ls/vtec is hard to get to be reliable and costs alot of money when the power isn't what you would get with a genuine gsr swap anyway. just my .02

 

noob

 

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Oh god, there is always one or two jackasses that gotta flame for no appearant reason. OK heres the backlash.....Start paying attention to detail, if you think you can read, im sorry but obviously not. Now If, big if, but if you look closely you can kinda see that he wrote that he does not know as much as some other people do, now u know how much itll take to fully build a NA integra, and try to get power out of it. Most I heard, like i said before, was like 220 hp NA, thats not alot and thats after the motor is pretty much fully built and alot of money is dumped into it. So, what I am saying is that is an option, but its costly, so if he does not have the money to fully build one he can go lsvtec or ls turbo with low boost. Don't call me a N00b im far from it; see the little "Self Built LSVTEC" line?

 

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Yes, even if you fully build your LS, the piping in all likelyhood would still be too big. 2.75" piping is ideal for over 250 hp. That's a hard number to acheive even with Vtec.

Sounds to me that your set up needs alot more attention and better planning. You gave yourself less horsepower by going with 2.75 piping - then you wonder why you lost?

Do some more research on your setup and figure out which direction you want to go in terms of engine work.

 

what size pipping should i get

 

You gotta read up homie.

http://www.team-integra.net/se...ID=48

 

2.25in piping would work well with your motor. 2.75in is far too big, it probably makes your car even slower.

Maybe learn how to drive?

 

I disagree. If you're building a full race engine, VTEC is irrelevant. VTEC works great as a street compromise (good power, good idle/low RPM driveability). But if you fully understand VTEC, you know it's just a mechanism of switching to longer duration, higher lift cam lobes with more advanced valve timing and more overlap. If you're making serious power, you simply pick a cam that has all that, launch high, idle at 1000 or more, and eliminate the extra VTEC crap on your valvetrain. You could go boost, or you could go high RPM NA. BTW if you're going boost, then you'll want a big cam that doesn't have as much overlap as you get with VTEC.

So no, you'd be better off building an LS than an LS/VTEC if you're truly talking about "fully built", although that phrase is basically meaningless on the internet.