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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Do all B16's Come with dual springs and retainers on the intake side of the valves???


Oh and im doing a full JDM B16A SIR2 and the mechanic told me that me switching the fuel-pump to a B16 fuel pump is not gonna make a difference ????


Oh and one non-related b16 question ....... do only automatic cars come with transmission speed senor ......

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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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I did the same swap into my EJ2 and I didn't change the fuel pump. I had a 1.5L SOHC engine and it doesn't seem to be starving for fuel. The way to check is to check and see if the part number to a 1994 Del Sol VTEC (1.6L DOHC VTEC) matches the part number to your car.

And yes, Automatic cars come with VSS.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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i think the JDM motors come with duel springs in them. my buddy with a JDM B18C has them
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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CHANGE THE FUEL PUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Do manual cars come with the tranny speed sensor too????


Cuz my mechanica is charging 84 parts and labor to change it buz my speedometer aint working with the new engine .... but then again it never did when i had my SOHC

Oh and in regards to the springs my mechanic said no on daul vavle brings in any B16 series engine doesnt have the duals .... only b18 type R

He told me my engine wouldnt have it ......


Oh and in regards to the susgestion of the fuel pump changing ..... i didnt do it yet cuz of my budget and i was kinda planning that if i was gonna change the pump and ways im gonna save for an upgrade not the stock b16 one
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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well his isnt a type r B18. its from the SiR. it is completly stock and his has duel springs on both intake and exhaust
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Yes manual cars come with VSS. When I bought my engine, the VSS was broken so I had to replace it but I didn't know that for a few days and thus, VTEC did not work because VTEC works off of the VSS.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Sorry i think he did mention something about the GSR ...... but in regards to B16's he said no about dual springs on intake or exhaust or more specific he said not on mine .......
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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I am pretty sure that all B16s come with dual valve springs on the intake side. I'm not sure when/if they began with dual valve springs on the exhaust side aswell...
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the b16a2 (99-00 SI) came with dual springs on one side.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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True all B-series Vtec engines did come with dual intake springs. But only the B16b, USA B18C type r , JDM B18C 96 type r had dual exhaust valve springs. And manual B series trannys do have a vss sensor also.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM EJ2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VTEC did not work because VTEC works off of the VSS.</TD></TR></TABLE>

isn't VTEC activated by oil pressure?

or is a combo of a bunch of factors?
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schramm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

isn't VTEC activated by oil pressure?

or is a combo of a bunch of factors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its a combination of speed, temp., and oil pressure. All three have to meet a certain point before VTEC will engage.

To the OP: Look around for a new VSS. I bought mine used for $30 and installed it in 5 minutes. $85 is a bit steep for something you could easily do yourself IMO.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schramm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

isn't VTEC activated by oil pressure?

or is a combo of a bunch of factors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oil press
Coolant at operating temp
VSS reading around 15mph, IIRC
RPM
VTEC hardware/software/wiring in good working condition
Throttle position


Your speedo doesn't have to work for VTEC to work. Your ECU just has to have a VSS signal. The manual transmisson cars also came with a VSS. VSS means vehicle speed sensor. So they all have one.

You dont absolutely need the DOHC pump, but it may be a good idea depending on what grade of gas is available to you and how hot it gets or how hard you plan on driving the car.

There's really no need to get a huge *** pump unless you're really building the motor (NA) or going turbo. What's the point? If you can find a Si pump for cheaper, do it.


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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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sorry to bump into the subject but i have a b16a and i was wondering th oil/water/timing belt combo situation. would i be able to run a type r oil pump with a b16 belt and water pump?? maybe somone can guide me a link please or let me know from previous experience
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