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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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ok so i screwed up
got pct pistons installed in an ls
the compression is way too high to be a DD

i was going to get the thickest HG to lower the CR

will this work also what other options do i have?
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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What is your current CR and How much do you want to drop?
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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with an OEM HG its +13:1
i want to drop to 11.5-12:1
so i will be able to run pump gas 91-94 oct
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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you can always just retard the timing some, too.

*edit* in addition to the thicker HG *edit*
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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how did you get the wrong pistons?
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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i ordered pct pistons on purpose but didnt do enough research before i bought them and took them to the machine shop to be installed
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AccordSleeperZzZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can always just retard the timing some, too.

*edit* in addition to the thicker HG *edit*</TD></TR></TABLE>

And some big cams can bleed off some compression.
Im running a .074" HG cause I had a similar issue. The spare block I bought was decked to hell, probably at least .02-.03" cause my pistons came out the deck 0.005-.008"
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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i ran pct pistons in my ls motor with a ls head, and i ran crower 403 cams with no problem. i ran 91 octane gas all the time and never had a problem of pinging.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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What sort of head are you using?
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by o5mar1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i ran pct pistons in my ls motor with a ls head, and i ran crower 403 cams with no problem. i ran 91 octane gas all the time and never had a problem of pinging.</TD></TR></TABLE> What was your final measured static compression? Did you close up the cam center-lines to bleed off some compression? What was the final timing number? Did you have to run it rich?
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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u built the cliff... myt aswell jump? lol kidding..

anyways.. havnt seen any mention of tuning.. was it tuned? to justify the needing to drop compression?&gt; cuz for sure any comp high enough + no tune = too much comp lol..

would also answer donF's questions as that would help figure out sum stuff
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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it was a 97 ls motor. the compression calculators said it was like 12.5 or something like that.I ended installing the pistons first cause i needed new rings anyways with the stock cams and theye didint hit at all. than about a month later i installed the cams and i turned the motor by hand to see if it was hard or anything and it wasant. I used to rev the motor to 8k rpm when i raced didint have an issue, oh yeah and i was runing hondata s300 at the time too.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by o5mar1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it was a 97 ls motor. the compression calculators said it was like 12.5 or something like that.I ended installing the pistons first cause i needed new rings anyways with the stock cams and theye didint hit at all. than about a month later i installed the cams and i turned the motor by hand to see if it was hard or anything and it wasant. I used to rev the motor to 8k rpm when i raced didint have an issue, oh yeah and i was runing hondata s300 at the time too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What CR calculator did you use? I thought an LS w/ PCT's would be more like 13:1 if not higher.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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hey o5mar1 or any1 else.. do you think i would have trouble running p30's and crower 404's in a LS block?
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AccordSleeperZzZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can always just retard the timing some, too.

*edit* in addition to the thicker HG *edit*</TD></TR></TABLE>

Retard the cam timing or the ignition timing?

once i get every thing back from the machine shop ill see if i truly see if i need a thicker HG cuz i ve gotten different answers on piston to deck height

for now the head is gonna be stock with a valve job and minor port but gonna upgrade to 404's with springs and retainers some time


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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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he means ignition timing. you can always clay the engine to make sure it wont hit
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