whats up everyone just like everyone else im tryin to get as much umph outta my car without spendin an arm and a leg. i was just browsin around and saw this thing called the turbowhirl @ turbowhirl.com. im just curious if anyone has ever heard of it if it actually works i read about it it seems like it would make sense. idk i'd appreciate any comments...thanks

 

I stopped reading after I saw "you can supercharge your ride for only $49.95".

Ever heard the saying "if it's too good to be true, it probably is?" This is why that saying was created.

 

It's the same thing as Tornado. I don't know about hp increase but I do know the Tornado increases fuel mileage on my brother's 83' GMC Sierra (about 1.5 mpg better). Its got a four barrel on it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work when applied to a fuel injected system. I wouldn't buy this for the performance aspect, but I do know the Tornado increases fuel mileage. I would get the Tornado over the Turbowhirl tho. It's a trusted name, and they have a guarantee and s**t , I think. I would never use either in my car. I'm too paranoid that something will break off and go into my intake manifold.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2008fijibluesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's the same thing as Tornado. I don't know about hp increase but I do know the Tornado increases fuel mileage on my brother's 83' GMC Sierra (about 1.5 mpg better). Its got a four barrel on it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work when applied to a fuel injected system. I wouldn't buy this for the performance aspect, but I do know the Tornado increases fuel mileage. I would get the Tornado over the Turbowhirl tho. It's a trusted name, and they have a guarantee and s**t , I think. I would never use either in my car. I'm too paranoid that something will break off and go into my intake manifold. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I skimmed over the site and it doesn't even tell you how it works. I did read that is goes into your intake. POOR PRODUCT. That thing doesn't give your bro better gas mileage, I guarantee you it's all in your head. ALl this piece of **** product does is spin around in the intake system from the air being forced in. Since it doesn't have the power to spin on it's own, it's taking the incoming air and using that to spin it. All this does is cause major interference in your air flow. Trust me, it's a scam, no one gains horsepower or gets better mileage. Owners of these sites should be shot in the face imo.

 

Wtf are you talking about? How can you guarantee me such a stupid statement? It's not in my head at all. I have a gas mileage calculator and he gets about 1.5 mpg better gas mileage. Nothing at all spins in the Tornado, it sits in your intake, and creates a vortex (or tornado) of air. What do I have to gain, by lying about if it works or not? You're an idiot.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2008fijibluesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wtf are you talking about? How can you guarantee me such a stupid statement? It's not in my head at all. I have a gas mileage calculator and he gets about 1.5 mpg better gas mileage. Nothing at all spins in the Tornado, it sits in your intake, and creates a vortex (or tornado) of air. What do I have to gain, by lying about if it works or not? You're an idiot. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Lmao I'm the idiot, but you're the one who thinks it's creating a tornado in your intake and thus gaining HP and gaining better mileage. Enlighten me genius, how does that work? Because I'm pretty sure there was another product called the Turbonator that did this exact same thing, and all it proved to do was expletive up the air flow to your car. once again, you're an idiot. Please someone ban this moron from H-T, all he does is spew crap that he has no evidence to support it with.

And my support:

http://autorepair.about.com/li...i.htm

A quick overview

As for the Turbonator, this product is a "vortex" type product. A second cousin to the Tornado, SpiralMax and a few others, all variations on a theme. And they are all worthless. The only thing they do well is take your money and make it disappear. You want to use that $69.95 and get more HP and better milage? Use it to get a good tune-up.

In a word, it is JUNK!

Hey how about another..

http://www.associatedcontent.c...age=1

And a lil tidbit from that

However, let us also examine the claim for increased gas mileage. While the claims about performance are simply misleading, the better gas mileage is an outright lies. Far from increasing the amount of gas mileage you get out of your vehicle, the turbonator has, in many cases, actually resulted in customer getting less mileage per gallon.

Wow I think that's two threads that I just laid down the gauntlet on you now. Someone, p lease, for the love of God ban this moron before he starts making posts about how he bought one of those electric superchargers on ebay and it's gaining him 35 WHP.

Don't even bother replying unless you have a legitimate argument. No more of this crap that you spew without anything to back you up.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2008fijibluesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a gas mileage calculator and he gets about 1.5 mpg better gas mileage. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm...

on these tests you're comparing with the mileage calculator. are they the same amount of miles under the same conditions / roads? same octane fuel? same temp & humidity?

my point is a change as small as 1.5mpg is pretty hard to prove.


also, do you see how elohel backs up his claims with information from other sources cited?

lets try that sometime 2008fijibluesi.

 

First of all, I never claimed that the Tornado improved horsepower in any way.

There is no more proof in those articles, than there is in my statement. I don't see one chart on there, that proves the thing doesn't work. They are two men's individual opinion, just as mine is.

Here is a thread where some people say it worked, some don't. It is all what people say, no charts or actual proof, but pretty much the same thing you posted.

http://www.offroaders.com/revi...t=255

Also, let me get this straight. I stated before, that I don't have one on my car, and would never put one on my car, so I have no f**kin reason to defend the damn thing. My brother bought a 1983 GMC Sierra for his landscaping business. The truck came with the Tornado. He figured that he'd leave it in there, and see if it worked. I am the manager for the LawnCare department of his business and drive this truck pulling a 16' landscape trailer, with two 60" zero-turn mowers, and a 48" walk-behind. It is not a fuel efficient truck, by any means, but he likes GM trucks, especially older ones, because he can work on them (his other work trucks include an '84 Blazer, a '69 C30 Mason Dump, a '69 C10 Camper Special, and a '75 High Sierra that is now a mason dump). Anyway, when my brother first started his business, he was taking any lawn mowing accounts he could get, including ones in Belle Mead and Hillsborough, which are 40-50 miles from my brother's shop. That is a very wealthy area, so the large lawns were worth the travel then. He since has gained many more local accounts, and we don't need to travel more than 10 miles for any of our accounts, but in the first couple of years, I was putting 500 miles on the truck on Wedneday alone. This meant, I would have to fill the truck up twice on Wednedays (once in the morning before we headed south, once en route). Numerous times, I checked the fuel economy twice in the same day. Every couple of weeks, for two months, I would run the truck without the Tornado. I still checked the fuel efficiency twice a day, and it was around the same temp and humidity, give or take a few degrees or percents. I would always notice an increase in fuel efficiency with the Tornado. Somedays, it was as great as 4 mpg better, but it was usually just around 1.5 mpg. Furthermore, upon researching on some other sites, it seems to be a general consensus, that the tornado is really only effective on carburated engines. People say that most modern fuel injected engines, have already designed the intake so that it creates an airflow, conducive to better airflow. Most older carb engines just had a filter on top on the carb, no intake tube or anything. I hope this explains my opinion. I have no way to prove it, as we've never put the truck on any machine, but I also have absolutely no reason to lie about it. Why would the people in the link I posted lie? Idk

 

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First of all, I never claimed that the Tornado improved horsepower in any way.

There is no more proof in those articles, than there is in my statement. I don't see one chart on there, that proves the thing doesn't work. They are two men's individual opinion, just as mine is.

Here is a thread where some people say it worked, some don't. It is all what people say, no charts or actual proof, but pretty much the same thing you posted.

http://www.offroaders.com/revi...t=255

Also, let me get this straight. I stated before, that I don't have one on my car, and would never put one on my car, so I have no f**kin reason to defend the damn thing. My brother bought a 1983 GMC Sierra for his landscaping business. The truck came with the Tornado. He figured that he'd leave it in there, and see if it worked. I am the manager for the LawnCare department of his business and drive this truck pulling a 16' landscape trailer, with two 60" zero-turn mowers, and a 48" walk-behind. It is not a fuel efficient truck, by any means, but he likes GM trucks, especially older ones, because he can work on them (his other work trucks include an '84 Blazer, a '69 C30 Mason Dump, a '69 C10 Camper Special, and a '75 High Sierra that is now a mason dump). Anyway, when my brother first started his business, he was taking any lawn mowing accounts he could get, including ones in Belle Mead and Hillsborough, which are 40-50 miles from my brother's shop. That is a very wealthy area, so the large lawns were worth the travel then. He since has gained many more local accounts, and we don't need to travel more than 10 miles for any of our accounts, but in the first couple of years, I was putting 500 miles on the truck on Wedneday alone. This meant, I would have to fill the truck up twice on Wednedays (once in the morning before we headed south, once en route). Numerous times, I checked the fuel economy twice in the same day. Every couple of weeks, for two months, I would run the truck without the Tornado. I still checked the fuel efficiency twice a day, and it was around the same temp and humidity, give or take a few degrees or percents. I would always notice an increase in fuel efficiency with the Tornado. Somedays, it was as great as 4 mpg better, but it was usually just around 1.5 mpg. Furthermore, upon researching on some other sites, it seems to be a general consensus, that the tornado is really only effective on carburated engines. People say that most modern fuel injected engines, have already designed the intake so that it creates an airflow, conducive to better airflow. Most older carb engines just had a filter on top on the carb, no intake tube or anything. I hope this explains my opinion. I have no way to prove it, as we've never put the truck on any machine, but I also have absolutely no reason to lie about it. Why would the people in the link I posted lie? Idk</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't read that because you fail at proper sentence and paragraph structure.

That being said.. who holds more credibility, a known website or some random posters on a forum?

 

thanks for the opinion i was just curious i had never seen anything like it or heard of anything like it. hell if i knew this was gonna cause the married couple to argue over it i wouldnt have asked

 

You are ridiculous. Neither! At all. They are both just opinions. Neither has facts.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2008fijibluesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are ridiculous. Neither! At all. They are both just opinions. Neither has facts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How about we just use some simple logic, then.. This thing claims to work by creating a vortex in the air intake and thus speeding up the amount of air coming in. Correct, right?

Now lets assume that's true, it does just that. Even if it did increase the air flow speed, explain how it would increase the amount of air flowing INTO the intake before it is sped up? Certainly you aren't telling me a simple blade in the intake can increase the pressure of incoming air and take in more, much like a supercharger does?

Not only that, but lets say it could improve gas mileage.. why doesn't Ford, Honda, Toyota, etc etc put these on every single car they make? It just doesn't make any sense man, you only look like a fool beleive this thing helps

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elohel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How about we just use some simple logic, then.. This thing claims to work by creating a vortex in the air intake and thus speeding up the amount of air coming in. Correct, right?

Now lets assume that's true, it does just that. Even if it did increase the air flow speed, explain how it would increase the amount of air flowing INTO the intake before it is sped up? Certainly you aren't telling me a simple blade in the intake can increase the pressure of incoming air and take in more, much like a supercharger does?

Not only that, but lets say it could improve gas mileage.. why doesn't Ford, Honda, Toyota, etc etc put these on every single car they make? It just doesn't make any sense man, you only look like a fool beleive this thing helps </TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me get something straight for you, since you obviously can't read. You keep putting words in my mouth. I never said it speeds up the air flow into the intake. Just like I never said I think it improves HP. Never. I said it creates a vortex (or tornado) or air before it goes into the intake. This vortex is supposed to be conducive to better airflow. This "better airflow" is supposed to help the a/f mixture and supposed to help the engine burn the gasoline more efficiently, and up to it's potential. You look like the fool punk. If you read my post before tearing it down, you'd read the answer to your stupid f**king question right in there. Companies don't use it because the Tornado only seems to be effective on carburated engines. And, just in case you didn't know, all of the companies you mentioned, have been using FI motors since like 1990. I will quote myself from two posts ago. "People say that most modern fuel injected engines, have already designed the intake so that it creates an airflow, conducive to better airflow". I.E.-Modern FI engines probably don't need it. But, either way, I have seen people claim it worked on their FI vehicle. I was just stating my single factual case on a 1983 Carburated GMC Sierra. I even said I would never use the thing in my own car. Why in the hell would I defend something that I would never use?

Do you remember the guy in the 2006+ forum that modified his stock intake, by taking out all of the fins that are supposed to aid in fuel efficiency? bioevolve is his name. Here is a link to his DIY where he says the Tornado works. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1998649 I know, it is not necessarily proof, but it shows that I'm not the only one that believes in it.

 

Bottom line, those things are a scam. Like it was stated before, if it was such a great invention with the way gas prices are across the country, every single one of these stupid things would be in cars.