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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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ok set up is a ls/vtec 93 ls blk 96 b16 head new rings /valvestem seals oil pump
water pump headgasket all new now i thought it might be the head studs but a
friend told me oil in the IM is a pcv problem we never changed it when building the
motor anyway could that be it cuz its burning alot of oil i took of the headers and
theres oil coming from 1 & 3 cly could it be the pcv please let me now also do i really need that damn pcv box or can i take it off
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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From what I've read, a pcv valve is less than like $5, so. . . it wouldn't hurt to just try and go for it, change it, and find out if thats it.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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i would be pissed if thats the prob sumthing so dumb like that but imma get 1 to see if thats the prob cuz my car been sittin in my garage for a long tim cuz of this we havent been able to figue out the prob but imma try that do i get the whole box or just ask for a pcv valve
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Your PCV valve is designed to suck oil vapors from the block into the intake manifold. Eliminate it all together and run a catch can in line to keep things clean and properly vent pressure from your crank case.

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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i replace the pcv but its still smokoing here r sum pics

heres the new pcv


heres inside my intake

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now hers the exaust ports
number1
number 2

number3
number4
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Number three is looking really nasty. Really should replace the pcv valve.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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i did but its still smoking i clened all 4 of the ports then ran it with the new pcv then took of the headers n these r the pics after i ran it still burning oil
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Run some seafoam thru there to get it all cleaned out. Once its cleaned out, it may give you a better view of where its coming from.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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do you have any headgasket oil leaks also is there's any oil on your spark plugs
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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You say it's still smoking?? Out of the intake manifold??? If it is check your Timing it must be off...
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic9390 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You say it's still smoking?? Out of the intake manifold??? If it is check your Timing it must be off...</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont listen to this guy he has no clue what hes talking about. there is something wrong with your pcv system. its not just the valve, theres more to it than that. its smoking because its burning oil from the intake manifold.

oil out of your exhaust ports can be alot of things, blowby the rings, valve seals etc. you need to figure out where the oil is coming from. do a compression test, and leakdown test to see.

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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disconnect all the lines that are for the pcv and run the car, i had the same problem with mine so i ran a catch can, same thing, Rebuilt motor smoked like MAD, but now not a drop
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Youcould try replacing the PCV valve. But otherwise, excessive amounts ofoil in the PCV system is a sign of excessive blowby forcing oil mist in the crankcase throught the PCV system, and into the intake manifold.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 05:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted_dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dont listen to this guy he has no clue what hes talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Touche sir. lol
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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im gonna replace the headgasket n the headstuds to see wat happens cuz i dont think its the rings or valvestem seals there all new
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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well its not the headgasket either, but dont listen to any of us and go spend time and money on something you dont need to do if you want.

i love when people ask for help, you tell them what to do and then they continue to do what they think is right.

good luck chief!!!

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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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pvc all tha way baby
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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so i should eliminate the pcv system? and yes the num 1 and num 3 spark plugs have oil num 3 the most
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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i just pulled off my tb cause im sending it out to get bored (motors not in car btw) and i noticed the same problem i have alot of oil in the tb and a shat load more in the intake manifold. hmmm makes me wonder if i need to replace the pvc valve wtf y not they cheap but what about a catch can how does that work exactly and it elimanates the pvc? sorry if these are stupid questions
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tazzsi84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i should eliminate the pcv system? and yes the num 1 and num 3 spark plugs have oil num 3 the most</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would do a compression test and see if you getting lower numbers in #1 and #3. if you are then its probably rings. if not then you need to evaluate your pcv system. eliminating it and installing a catch can is an easy way to be sure it will function properly.

but if it is noticably differnt in 2 of the 4 cylinders, then its probably NOT your pcv system

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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did a compresion test good numbers all across im trying to get a leakdown test see wuts up cuz its geting me mad
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tazzsi84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did a compresion test good numbers all across im trying to get a leakdown test see wuts up cuz its geting me mad</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do a leakdown and report back.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zaraki &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do a leakdown and report back. </TD></TR></TABLE>

agree. you should do a cylinder leakage test. im highly leaning towards your piston rings. did you install it correctly?
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