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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Well like I said earlier, it sounds like something squeaks when I start the car on a cold engine. When it warms up, it goes away.

My car has about 93k miles and will have a low idle problem every great once in a while, but it goes away.

I really want to have my T belt replaced, but I want to get some opinions if it is really neccasary at this time. Should I wait until the schedualed 105k mile point, or do it sooner?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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check the accesory belts first, try to narrow down to alternator p/s pump etc, poor alittle on the belt the you suspect and see if it stops. check belt tensions as well more then likely not the timing belt.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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There are a few answers to your previous question here:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2188709

As for your T-Belt question. According to the scheduled maintenance listing your T-Belt & balance shaft belt should be replaced every 60K miles or 60 months (5years). Your car is going on 10 years now so I would say that you might as well do it now if it will make you feel better.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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I had the same problem when it was around 90k. Makes a whinning noise when i start up the engine in the cold morning. It would go away after warming up, but i changed it to be safe and because H-Ters says to change every 60k like what GHostaccord says.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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Whatever happened to the whole 105k miles rule?
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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Where did you hear the 105K rule. I've personally never heard it used for Honda. If your willing to let your t-belt go for 105K before you change it, when the Honda manual says 60k, 120k, 180k, 240k, etc, that's up to you. I'm just telling you what the Honda shop manual says.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 03:19 AM
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Ghost, I believe I've seen YeuEmMaiMai post 105K as the recommended interval for the 98-02 4cyl. It may be different for different years/engines, I don't have a 98-02 manual so I can't look it up.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 04:25 AM
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Yeah you are probably right there I'm going off the H22, F22 series engines the F23 and K's may be different. I still wouldn't trust them for that long. There still made by the same manufacturer and materials.... to each his own!
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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I change the t-belt on the 1991 at 150k and 300k. The upper belt cover is off so I can inspect it. This is my car and I know it very well and do all the work myself.
You should be safe up to 105k though. It's your car, so you decide up to how many miles you are comfortable driving it without worrying too much about it.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Well damn, I'm just trying to find someone I can trust and will do it for cheap.
Because I don't have $800 right now.

I think I'm ganna get the belt inspected by my mechanic, and see what he thinks.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Ghost:
Honda calls for replacement at 105,000 miles or 84 months under "normal" conditions. The interval is reduced to 60,000 miles or 48 months if the vehicle is operated at ambient temperatures under minus 20 degrees or over 100 degrees.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 04:06 AM
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it's hard to tell how worn the belt is with it installed on the car. Best place to look is where the belt goes over the tensioner pulley, to see down there you'll need to remove the upper side cover and use a flash light, look for cracks at the base of the teeth. Be warned though, once there is noticeable wear there isn't much time left on that belt.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tpot90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ghost:
Honda calls for replacement at 105,000 miles or 84 months under "normal" conditions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your are absolutely correct for the F23. My apologies. It's all 97 and below F22 and H22 engines that the interval is every 60k miles / 98K Km under "normal" conditions.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TouringAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's hard to tell how worn the belt is with it installed on the car. Best place to look is where the belt goes over the tensioner pulley, to see down there you'll need to remove the upper side cover and use a flash light, look for cracks at the base of the teeth. Be warned though, once there is noticeable wear there isn't much time left on that belt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats good advice, thanks. But what is required to remove the side cover? Will I have to remove any other components such as alternator, etc?

Or is it a simple "unscrew and remove" job?
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 02:40 AM
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The upper belt cover is locked in place with the valve cover. Remove the valve cover then use a 10mm 1/4" drive socket.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 04:16 AM
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Default Re: T-belt replacement (tpot90)

like AccordEX1991 stated above, you need to remove the valve cover and then you can remove the upper side cover.

If you search, I believe it was Hondadude who posted some pictures of a what a worn timing belt looks like. I don't have a link, sorry, but I remember seeing it posted.
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