I am in the market for some extra spark, I searched in the archived section and from what I gathered there, even the Digital6's are junk. It was recommended to me by someone reputable to get a Digi 6 but I dont want issues, I am looking for some replies from you 700+hp guys with MSD setups, how many if any issues have you had, and what all besides the proper coil do I need for it to work correctly, I read about Tach issues, how do I resolve those? Thanks in advance

Also I noticed 135mj out of the Digi 6 and 190mj out of the Digi7, should I just opt for the 7 and call it a day?

 

im pleading the fiz if.
i guess im in the minority of people that have the 6al that works.

i will be stepping up to the hvc2 coil eventually.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im pleading the fiz if.
i guess im in the minority of people that have the 6al that works.

i will be stepping up to the hvc2 coil eventually. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea we already had this discussion Mikey, you are one of the few. This whole upgrade is probably unnecessary, but the whole .016 plug gap I got going on kinda bugs me, hoping with some extra spark i can increase it to .020 or so.

 

i know just reiterating, im sitting at 0.018 also.

 

I only made 600hp on stock sleeve b16, w/my digital six and mikey s turbo and intercooler (thanks again mikey)

but like mikey said we some of the few (that did not have problems/troubles)
i do run .20 gap on my plugs
evans does not like the msd, gave me a hard time when i first met him (its cool jeff) but after numerious dyno s without any ignition troubles with my car

its cool

hope you figure it out
i would love the digital 7 but alot more money (just my 2 cents)

dan

 

M&W Pro 10 is your best bet. Cheaper than the Digital 7, strong enough to fire 45+ psi at .020", and allows you to bypass the oem ignitor which is a common source of problems on the Honda dist.

 

tony, can this be used with any management?

 

Yes, it has a user selectable trigger edge so it can be used with anything.

 

I have talked to you in the past, but Jeff E. said he tried the setup and couldnt get it to work right, and since he is the one tuning my car, i would hate to bring it up there with the M&W and have issues, Tony how many cars have you tuned with OEM based ECU's and M&W? I cant remember if he said that the issues were on his race car or a customers car, I do like the idea of not using the OEM Ignitor though.

Tony, probably irrelevant, but what Mj does the M&W 10 push? EDIT: 115-150Mj as per teh Website.

 

The Pro 10 comes with the ignition box and connector kit, you have to build your own wire harness. It's a very powerful ignition box and if it's not wired properly then it will give you problems with RF noise. The wires have to be routed properly and shielded wires should be used. I suspect the problems Jeff had were from his wire harness, things weren't routed properly and shielded wire was not used.

I've installed and tuned at least 10 of these on stock ecu's and never had a problem, and i've sold a lot more than that with no issues.

If you don't have the proper tools and materials to build the harness, i'd highly recommend buying the kit that i sell with the wire harness.

The Pro 10 is 150mj, but that rating doesn't tell the whole story on ignition power. For comparison, the Motec CDI-8 is $2000 and 105mj and will fire an alcohol engine at 60psi all day long, which is not easy to do!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Pro 10 comes with the ignition box and connector kit, you have to build your own wire harness. It's a very powerful ignition box and if it's not wired properly then it will give you problems with RF noise. The wires have to be routed properly and shielded wires should be used. I suspect the problems Jeff had were from his wire harness, things weren't routed properly and shielded wire was not used.

I've installed and tuned at least 10 of these on stock ecu's and never had a problem, and i've sold a lot more than that with no issues.

If you don't have the proper tools and materials to build the harness, i'd highly recommend buying the kit that i sell with the wire harness.

The Pro 10 is 150mj, but that rating doesn't tell the whole story on ignition power. For comparison, the Motec CDI-8 is $2000 and 105mj and will fire an alcohol engine at 60psi all day long, which is not easy to do!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its always something simple that causes big headaches
Interested.... PM'd U

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im pleading the fiz if.
i guess im in the minority of people that have the 6al that works.

i will be stepping up to the hvc2 coil eventually. </TD></TR></TABLE>im on a 6al too!havent had any problems and jeff gapped my plugs at .018in.\
im switching to a digital6 and hvc coil this time with aem ems and my msd dizzy

 

im running the setup that tony1 posted, it fixed my misfiring at hi-rpm
m&w pro

 

I dont like the analog msd series ignitions. I have had tons of issues on customers cars with them. The digital series msd ignitions work great, and we recommend and sell them. I have been using the msd digital 7 box for the past two seasons with zero issues, as well as the HVC II coil. The digital 6 ignition is great for someone that just wants a simple ignition system, and has a built in 2step and single stage retard feature. Its basic, and gets the job done. The digital 7 series is not worth getting unless you are going for the programmable boxes. It does have a higher spark energy output (the non-programmable digital 7), but i have not noticed a bit of performance difference from the digital 6. The programmable digital 7 boxes offer tons of features that can make a huge difference in getting a drag car down the track. The features are straight forward and simple to use, and depending on what programmable digital 7 box you are using some have datalogging built-in.

The M&W stuff is quality. I did not use shielded wires when i made the harness, the directions that came with the unit were very specific about twisting the wiring over a specified length but i dont recall anything about using shielded wiring. I have tuned several customers car with the M&W pro 10, 12 and 14 boxes with no issues at all.

It comes down to price and what you want from an ignition system. I am hooked on the programmable digital 7 msd stuff from using it, but depending on engine management system being used you can replicate some of the features.

 

So it all pretty much comes down to

MSD Digital Series Works
M&W Pro 10+ Works

Just a matter of price and what you want out of the specific unit, Tony does the M&W 10 have the features of the Digi 7 or is it comparable to the 6?

 

The M&W has no additional features, other than being a high output ignition system.

 

Yup, all the M&W has is a tach output. No 2 step or anything like that, that's all done through the ECU.

 

HVC2 coil will enable many nifty things if you already have an MSD Digital ignition.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont like the analog msd series ignitions. I have had tons of issues on customers cars with them. The digital series msd ignitions work great, and we recommend and sell them. I have been using the msd digital 7 box for the past two seasons with zero issues, as well as the HVC II coil. The digital 6 ignition is great for someone that just wants a simple ignition system, and has a built in 2step and single stage retard feature. Its basic, and gets the job done. The digital 7 series is not worth getting unless you are going for the programmable boxes. It does have a higher spark energy output (the non-programmable digital 7), but i have not noticed a bit of performance difference from the digital 6. The programmable digital 7 boxes offer tons of features that can make a huge difference in getting a drag car down the track. The features are straight forward and simple to use, and depending on what programmable digital 7 box you are using some have datalogging built-in.

The M&W stuff is quality. I did not use shielded wires when i made the harness, the directions that came with the unit were very specific about twisting the wiring over a specified length but i dont recall anything about using shielded wiring. I have tuned several customers car with the M&W pro 10, 12 and 14 boxes with no issues at all.

It comes down to price and what you want from an ignition system. I am hooked on the programmable digital 7 msd stuff from using it, but depending on engine management system being used you can replicate some of the features. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you Jeff....Thats well explained