ive noticed that eagle, scat, and probe rods all look exactly the same, all 3 use arp 2000 rod bolts and all 3 are priced at $300 or below with the probe being the cheapest, i found them as low as $258! with eagle and scat both being ~300

so the question, are all 3 the same ish different name? is one better than the other?

 

anybody?

 

uumm I wonder too???????????????

 

All pretty similar... I would stick with Eagle or SCAT though. I think Eagle would be the pest performance bang for the $. just my 2-C. I've used Eagle rods in a few different 4g63 motors and have had awesome success with them. A couple of the motors have run 600+whp with turbos stressing 30+psi on them.

 

This has been covered before but the answer is that they are all basically the same casting. The difference is the final machining which is generally done stateside by the company.

 

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really, cause i searched "eagle scat" and nothing came up. and im pretty damn sure those rods are FORGED not cast


Modified by blinx9900 at 11:59 AM 12/25/2007

 

bump, anybody know?

 

I just told you. They are all manufactured the same way and shipped off. Then there is final machine work done. That is the difference between the brands. Ask Craig from Tuner Toys. He sells rods just like Scat, Eagle, and Probe rods.

 

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no you didnt "just tell me" you said they were CAST, which makes me question your statement entirely...

 

Bump for more info, looking at the eagle and scat rods myself.

 

both eagle and scat rods are forged. I don't know of any aftermarket con-rod makers for spo-coms that sell cast rods. Shoot, I'm pretty sure most OEM rods now are forged (albeit super skinny). I know most Nissan stock rods are forged and shot peen'd.

I think it would be safe to say if your max goal is 500-600whp, eagle rods will be fine.

If you're looking for maDd UltiMaTe PoWaH, Pauter rods would be the choice.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chimmike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">both eagle and scat rods are forged. I don't know of any aftermarket con-rod makers for spo-coms that sell cast rods. Shoot, I'm pretty sure most OEM rods now are forged (albeit super skinny). I know most Nissan stock rods are forged and shot peen'd.

I think it would be safe to say if your max goal is 500-600whp, eagle rods will be fine.

If you're looking for maDd UltiMaTe PoWaH, Pauter rods would be the choice.</TD></TR></TABLE>

People cringe on Eagles, I have personally never used them but my Friend dailys his EG at 600whp and they are 15k miles going strong. Just make sure you use better rod bolts from what I have read and you should be good.

For big power, Manley, Pauter or Crower Pro's are all good rods, but expensive.

 

most decent dealers sell Eagles with ARP rod bolts. They can be found on ebay IIRC relatively inexpensively.

 

I have heard people knock eagle rods too... my question is then why are they Eagle 900hp H Beam Rods???

 

on a D series block, im pretty sure eagles have to have the block notched whereas the scats i dont think you need to

 

The funny thing about all this is, 5-6 years ago I was selling SCAT rods through a dealer acct I had. SCAT had just started selling import rods (had been selling V8 stuff for years....just like Probe), and noone would buy them from me cause they said they were knock-off Eagles and junk.

Now, years later, SCAT rods have proven no different, just cheaper. Until I see otherwise, I have no reason to believe that Probes are any different. People need to step up and use them. I got a used set of Eagles from a friend for 100.00, otherwise I'd be sticking them in my motor this year. There's a seller on ebay selling probe rods for 179.00.

 

Probes have not proved themselfves.
I have seen 7 eagles personally through my shop break, bend, warp.
I have never ever heard of a scat breaking. I know alot of domestiv guys running em and i got em in my boosted h22, soon to have some in my 600+ civic budget drag car

 

wow, i didn't realize my little thread was still moving along

 

i use SCAT 4340 FORGED H-beams in my VW engine, they are 144mm length, 20mm wrist pin, non tapered, and i have had no issues what so ever with them. GT3071R, im Using JE 81mm forged 8.5:1 pistons as well.. good product for the money. i payed 360 shipped for mine and have about 15,000 miles on my build thus far

 

There all the same rod end thread.

 

Good Read, I have a set of Probe rods that I am thinking of using in my next build. I was talking to a guy at probe and he said there I beam rod will hold 450whp/ 400wtq. Any thoughts?

 

im getting probe i beam rods for my b20vtec all motor build so i think it should be ok.. it did says its for high rpm engines and drag motors with no power adders. ohh i notice it also says its with ARP 8740 rod bolts.. are they supposedly better than arp 2000??

ohh are these rods made in China just the like the eagles'?


Modified by vteczone at 10:53 PM 6/9/2008

 

i have have a fuilly built ls/vtec-T that im shooting for over 600whp w/ Scat rods.. ill let u all know how it gose