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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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I know there are different versions. I found a set that is about 3 years old and they have the 4 bolt design. Believe it or not these are 3 years old and never out of the box. Anyone know if there are any problems with these to watch for?
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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They're still 4 bolts. Good gears.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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what was changed between gen 1 and gen 2? WHat are never used gen 1 gears worth?
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Are the old ones just heavy? Is that the difference? I hear Toda gears are heavier than most but I don't know if that's referring to the older model.


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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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i dont understand why people just dont use a brand other than toda if there is such a problem with the gears? i have been using my skunk2s for like almost 2 years w/o and probs
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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i dont understand why people just dont use a brand other than toda if there is such a problem with the gears? i have been using my skunk2s for like almost 2 years w/o and probs
It's just a matter of preference I guess.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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just a matter of preference I guess.
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people prefer to use gears that break and have to be continuously designed and are hard to learn to use? i wanna shake their hand!

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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:13 PM
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Never heard a bad thing about Toda gears. Iwanted clarification between the gen1 and gen 2 gears. Skunks are an option too but if I can get these cheaper than skunks and they DON'T have problems what is the problem with that?
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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no problem here.. i was asking.. not flaming
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:23 PM
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That's cool. So do you know of a problem? I think the timing marks changed but was looking for some confirmation.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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Gen 1 Toda gears are the same as the Spoon gears.
Gen 2 Toda gears came with more accurate degree markings and made of aluminum to make it lighter.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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If they're aluminum now (gen2), what were they made of before (gen1)???
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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Stock Camsprocket, modified to be adjustable.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 08:03 PM
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Stock Camsprocket, modified to be adjustable.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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Gen 1 Toda gears are the same as the Spoon gears.
Gen 2 Toda gears came with more accurate degree markings and made of aluminum to make it lighter.

1. They're similar, but not quite the same.

2. Yes, gen 2 are vernier scale. Very accurate once you learn how to read them.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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people prefer to use gears that break and have to be continuously designed and are hard to learn to use? i wanna shake their hand!

some people prefer the toda quality. You realize that your beloved skunk2 gears are mis-degreed from the factory, right? No problem if you use a degree wheel when installing them though, right? No such problems with any generation of the toda gears.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 11:18 PM
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Did you know your toda cams are off from the factory too?

Bet you dont even know by how much.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 11:31 PM
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is it possible that the 2nd gen toda gears in position 0,0 are different from stock non-adjustable gears? if i install them in position 0,0 will i loose power?

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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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some people prefer the toda quality. You realize that your beloved skunk2 gears are mis-degreed from the factory, right? No problem if you use a degree wheel when installing them though, right? No such problems with any generation of the toda gears.
how do you know Ken? Have you installed them before? Have you installed ANYTHING before? All you do is take up space and ask the same questions OVER AND OVER. Dont give me that **** you know-nothing punk ***. Toda Cams are off about 5-6 Degrees " from the factory"

..but you knew that, right?
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 12:07 AM
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Do you know your motor doesn't care if your cam gear reads 1 degree or 3 degree's if dyno tuning? If you pick up x hosepower at x degree, the motor has no way of knowing "I'm at 2 degree's but the cam gear says 2.5.....oh no"

Just a thought.


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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 12:27 AM
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Do you know your motor doesn't care if your cam gear reads 1 degree or 3 degree's if dyno tuning? If you pick up x hosepower at x degree, the motor has no way of knowing "I'm at 2 degree's but the cam gear says 2.5.....oh no"

Just a thought.


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No he doesnt know that, that would require intelligence and a somewhat functional thought process. Only way he learns is if its pounded into his head with a 3 lb mallet repeatedly.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 05:43 AM
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Wow Busta Nutt such animosity towards BlackR. Did he **** you off on some previous post or something.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 05:45 AM
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just in case anyone needs a set, I have Toda Gen II cam gears for sale...used less than 2K, IM me if interested
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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wow, someone sure knows a lot about me eh? Take a look at my past thread history and see what I've installed.

nice. such a tough guy from behind a computer.

Buster.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 07:38 AM
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no usefull info in this thread, just crappy insults to one another

how do you say... "in b4 the lock..."?

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