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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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I am looking at doing the Big Brake Upgrade for my 97 Civic. Just wondering I have heard bad things about drilled rotors. This is what I am looking at don't have enough money for the brembo gran turismo ones.

http://www.modacar.com/product....html

A for these it says nothing about needing a certain size wheel. I only have 15's.

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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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You can find other people who make slotted rotors. You can also Get bigger calipers (Integra),or do a rear disc conversion. just wondering what the car is being used for.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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I am going to be autocrossing and doing some drag racing.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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how many ponies u plan on pushing out
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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save your money and buy really good pads, brake fluids and some blank rotors. no need for the big brake upgrade unless you have money to spend.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superd16girl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am going to be autocrossing and doing some drag racing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
How much power are you making and what tires are you using?

Because you probably don't need a "big brake kit."
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superd16girl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am looking at doing the Big Brake Upgrade for my 97 Civic. Just wondering I have heard bad things about drilled rotors. This is what I am looking at don't have enough money for the brembo gran turismo ones.

http://www.modacar.com/product....html

A for these it says nothing about needing a certain size wheel. I only have 15's.

Opinions please!
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Honda make pretty good brake components. a integra brake set up will do your right. a set of good pads, blank rotors, ss braided lines (for the feel), good tires, and maybe upgrade the MC and you'll be set.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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The answer to your question depends on (like everyone else has said) what you will use the car for, how much power you have, and what kind of car do you have?

The answer for pretty much ALL those questions would be a 5 lug setup from an USDM ITR or a CTR. You could also choose to buy 98+ITR/CTR or Prelude/CR-V/Accord front calipers (from a car with the 11.1'' rotors), and 98+ITR/CTR rear calipers (not sure if others work on the rear). You can then have 98+ITR 11.1'' front and 10.5'' rear rotors drilled for a 4X100 lug pattern. This all depends on what size brakes your car has from the factory..and if you have rear disk. Lots of factors...

I chose to do the whole shebang (entire 5 lug setup....spindles, rotors, calipers, trailing arms) from a CTR. I bought the whole thing with wheels for $300 including some other REALLY crazy and rare stuff for an extra $50 cuz im a lucky ****.

Even if you have to buy yours for retail (around $1100-1200 with wheels), the 5 lug works very well. The brakes are not too big, not too small. Just right. The brake modulation using OEM components is really nice, and I dont trust aftermarket quality like I trust OEM quality. You get to choose from a plethora of brake pad compounds ranging from dirt cheap to freaking expensive and from street to full race. You dont have to worry about what your orignal brakes were, this replaces the whole thing. If you need new rotors, you just buy ITR parts at a auto parts store. You dont have to worry about getting the rotors redrilled.

After market big brake kits can sometimes have an expensive repair/rebuild/maintainence schedule. You are stuck using THEIR choice of pads. The quality and ease of maintainence is rarely like OEM. You really dont need HUGE FREAKING BRAKES on a civic...unless you're making HUGE freaking power and going 160mph to 0 to 160mph to 0 over and over again.

around 11 inches is generally the largest rotor you can have for a 15'' wheel.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superd16girl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am looking at doing the Big Brake Upgrade for my 97 Civic. Just wondering I have heard bad things about drilled rotors. This is what I am looking at don't have enough money for the brembo gran turismo ones.

http://www.modacar.com/product....html

A for these it says nothing about needing a certain size wheel. I only have 15's.

Opinions please!
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Drilled rotors:
Way back when (ha, only two years ago) when I was heavy into domestics I had a lot of friends with camaros and mustangs, and it was this big thing that hit our group that was all like "yeah, we're gonna get slotted rotors, and they're gonna last forever, and we're never gonna have to change them again, etc. etc. etc." At the time I was too poor to afford the brake upgrade so I held back.

Turns out they went through the drilled rotors just as fast, if not faster than my blanks.

Reasoning? There's less surface contact with the pad which means there's more power required (brake pedal pressure) to stop the same distance than with blanks. So what good to drilled rotors do? On an autocross or road race event, the extra braking is very negligible, but what happens is the brakes cool faster due to the increased air flow/faster cooling, so it takes longer for them to warp. Though if you use them for regular driving where you're not fast on the brakes, then fast off (let them cool quickly), they'll go just as fast (or faster) as regular blanks.

Use blanks unless you're road racing or autocrossing...and even then, unless you have some really hardcore suspension/motor setup I'd still use blanks.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Thanks for your input I am not going to do it because I don't need it and I only have 15's so its not going to work. I plan on using brembo slotted rotors, hawk pads, and possibly just keep the stock calipers or just the integra ones.

I personally don't like drilled rotors anyways.

Thanks again.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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A much better (and more cost effective option is to get the Type-R front brakes in 4x100 form. This setup can be had around 300$ and will give you much better stopping while still using OEM pads, so you can use any compound you want, and dont need new wheels.
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