the setup:tokico illuminas + h&r springs
the question:i need a camber kit to keep the tires without wear?
or i can adjust the toe just by doing thisť "basically put the car on stands, loosen all suspension bolts and use the jack to push up on the wheel. Re tighten with the hub/lca pushed up (to where you think it would sit when put on the ground".

i need more explanation on that if that's true

 

you need to get an alignment done to fix toe, and prevent uneven tire wear. you do not need to buy a camber kit.

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i need more explanation on that if that's true </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is a process to prevent your bushings from ripping and is the correct procedure for reassembling your suspension.

 

So, the first thing I do is set the caster on the car(only the earlier years of hondas have this).

There are two large bolts at the front of the car that will pull the lower control arm (LCA) forward. Basically you want to have positive caster (its supposed to be 3 degrees). You want to measure the distance between the LCA bushing bolt to a fixed point on the frame and make sure you have the same measurement to the same fixed point on the other side.

Then you can move to toe. I lift the car up and disconnect the steering arms making sure its free and easy to twist then lower it back down with the arms installed loosely. Take measurements between the inside of the rims (one at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock). It will generally around the 50 inch mark on both but the idea since you don't have a camber kit is to shoot for the measurement to be identical to have 0 toe in and toe out. Generally whatever you do to one side you do to the other. TAKE YOUR TIME. Once your close lift it back up and tighten everything down and take it for a spin. Repeat if it feels like it pulls.

OR

Pay $60 bucks and have a shop do what they can!

 

DIY home alignments are possible. but its a lot of work, mostly because its a lot of trial and error. adjust and measure, test drive and try again...

but you werent very specific in how you measured things. before anyone else asks how to do it themselves, i explained my results with longacre toe plates.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1974327

the problem is that you only measure the TOTAL toe difference for each axle. and not relative to the chassis or from front to back. but i did show an example on how to accomplish this using a laser level. ive YET to try it myself, havent unpacked the nice laser level i bought from sears.

anyway, i suggest most everyone just go and pay $160 at your local firestone for a LIFETIME alignment. ive used it several times in the last year on my S2000 and well worth it.

 

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exactly,so an alignment is all i need to prevent uneven tire wear

and i need something to prevent uneven tire wear on the rear?

my bad,the car is an 89 civic dx hatch


Modified by cheap2 at 4:13 PM 12/16/2007

 

there is available rear toe alignment stock. no need for anything extra to get a toe alignment to prevent tire wear.