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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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i have a '94 civic ex and i just bought the tein basic coilover kit. i have not installed it yet but i have concerns of the negative camber.

i was thinking about getting a camber kit but a few guys on here are saying that its not worth the money, so do i really need a camber kit? and how many degrees out of square can i run and still have the car operate the car safley?

please if you dont know, dont respond.

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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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bump i have the same question
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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The truth is, for most cars, you do not need a camber kit to be safe. You also do not need a camber kit to prevent excessive tire wear. However, changing ride height changes the toe. Its hard to keep your tires intact with toe in, and excessive toe out is both unsafe and detrimental to tire life.

I daily drive my Integra with -4.0* of front camber. Its been this way for well over a year, no issues. Now, this alignment is for autocross, and it is quite excessive, but it has been fine for street use, and my tires show no problems. I also run 0 front toe. Rear is -1.3* and a slight toe in, whatever factory spec for rear toe is.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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the toe in issue: is this easily fixed? and my car is a daily driver and subjected to agressive driving every now and then.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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toe issue is a simple fix - just go get an alignment done and tell them you want your toe to be zeroed out.

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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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is it possible to fix it my self?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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yes.

http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...t.php

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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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thank you that was very helpful
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes.

http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...t.php

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string method works good for waht it is.

not incredibly accurate tho. you use the strings thickness to estimate the toe difference from the front and back of the tire. youre still eyballing things tho.

DIY home alignments are possible. but its a lot of work, mostly because its a lot of trial and error. adjust and measure, test drive and try again...

but you werent very specific in how you measured things. before anyone else asks how to do it themselves, i explained my results with longacre toe plates.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1974327

the problem is that you only measure the TOTAL toe difference for each axle. and not relative to the chassis or from front to back. but i did show an example on how to accomplish this using a laser level. ive YET to try it myself, havent unpacked the nice laser level i bought from sears.

anyway, i suggest most everyone just go and pay $160 at your local firestone for a LIFETIME alignment. ive used it several times in the last year on my S2000 and well worth it.
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