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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Default Turbo choice for built h23 looking for 400whp.

Setup:
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Wiseco 9.8:1 pistons
Crower Rods
Delta 260 cams
Crower valvetrain
1mm oversized valves

Right now I'm running a t3/t04e .63/.60 57 trim and putting down about 300 at 10 psi. I don't think I'll get much over 350 with this turbo, and it has a load of miles and is starting to get some decent shaft play in it.

I'm still using a log manifold which may go, but finding a decent manifold for the h23 is kind of difficult.

Other turbo stuff on the car: 3" exhaust, 2.25" I/C piping, tial 35mm W/G, greddy type RS bov, 750cc injectors, decent sized intercooler (Still doing good at 300whp).

I drive the car on the street alot, not looking for that huge heavy hitting top end. Right now I get 10 psi by 3k rpms, and I like it.

Any input would be apreciated. Thanks all
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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A little port flow and and larger i/c piping would be a place to start.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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The head has been mildly worked over, nothing serious but gasket match and mild clean-up and cc'd the runner volume.

Piping is in the works, but really, 2.25" from the turbo to the intercooler should be fine, maybe 2.5"-2.75" on the cool side, nothing larger is needed for 400whp, atleast in my opinion.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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You should easily hit 400whp on a 57trim. There have been several people who take those turbos into the upper 400's on B series engines. If you're still worried about running out of breath, you could upgrade to something like the STC Silver Surfer or a 60-1
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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i have done about 5 h23a setups , a stock drag 4 kit can make 390-410whp max with the t3/t04e 57 trim .63 turbine w/stage 3 wheel,,, rigth around 20-23psi and they some with 2.25piping on the hot side and 2.5 on the cold side

so what u have would be fine for 400whp
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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The question still comes up though, with mine getting older do I just rebuild it, or should I go for something different (Maybe ball bearing?) or is it not worth my money going with the $1100.00 turbo's? Id rather not spend all that money if I didnt have to, so a rebuild just might be right for me.

Thanks all for the input so far, very helpful
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bjaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The question still comes up though, with mine getting older do I just rebuild it, or should I go for something different (Maybe ball bearing?) or is it not worth my money going with the $1100.00 turbo's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

to me its not worth doing a ball bearing upgrade, i would rebulid or do a upgrade to maybe a sc61e and move ur goal to 450whp, being that the sc61e is still a small frame turbo like the t3/t04e it will still bolt up the same placement as yours
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Cool, I'll probably just stick with mine for the time being.

I'd love to go for more power, but I'd like this motor to last for a good while, I built it for 500whp or so, so it would easily take 400whp.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Quick question for you to, what cams are you using?
Or, on that subject, would you recomend for my goals and setup?
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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If you have the money, get a Borg Warner S258...you're troubles will be over
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bjaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quick question for you to, what cams are you using?
Or, on that subject, would you recomend for my goals and setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>

with ur motor setup you can push it as much as u want if bulit well it would hold as much boost as u throw in it, only thing i can see u would need is bigger injectors if u wanted to push it very far, h23's tend to like alot of fuel for the same power as a B would need, soo if u keeping the same turbo ur goal has to be 390-400whp but with that power ur car will break the 11's range with slicks.

im running a custom set of crower cams that they grind'd to my specs with a all stock head making power to 7800rpms, im doing another h23 setup in another car that i plan to try for 600-650whp with another stock head with cams


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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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get a GT3071R .63 A/R
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