Sorry if this is a repost, couldnt find anything searching though a little ot, but
"type R related"

The Last S2000
"Loyal readers may remember that about 4 years ago, in 2003, Best Car
reported on the release of the S2000 Type R. Unfortunately it never
materialized. At that time, it was not just wild guesses and
Photoshop'ed art work. There was an actually S2000 Type R proposal
that leaked out from Honda sources describing the S2000 Type R. The
proposal was dropped at the last minute in favor of the 2.2L AP2 to
satisfy the need for more torque in the American market, while Japan
complained of the decision being very 'un-Honda.'"

Apparently Best Car has reason to believe that Honda is revisiting
this Type R proposal for the final model change for the S2000. They
call it the "lightweight package" and it will follow the Type R
proposal's target of 100kg weight reduction, bringing the car from
1250kg to 1150kg, changing the power to weight ratio from 5.16kg/ps
to 4.75kg/ps. This should provide performance at turbo levels but
with the direct feel of natural aspiration.

The S2000 Type R model year 2004 proposal (official document from
Honda) consisted of:
-target of 100kg weight reduction
-balanced engine internals (Type R treatment)
-Type R exclusive interior
-air conditioning becomes a factory option
-SRS air bag becomes a factory option
-sound deadening material deleted
-front tire: 205/55R16 to 205/45R17 (implemented on AP2)
-rear tire: 225/50R16 to 245/40R17 (implemented on AP2)
-Type R exclusive suspension tuning
-Type R exclusive uprated brakes
-Type R exclusive body color(s)
-spare tire deleted
-mechanical LSD
-power soft top deleted
-lightweight carbon hard top
-audio becomes factory option

The S2000 is expected to be discontinued before March 2008, so the
lightweight package should be sold sometime between now and then.

The next S
Honda has been tossing around many ideas on the next S. From 4 door
sports car to FF compact sports. But it seems they have decided to
stay with the FR roadster format, and are preparing a concept car in
time for the discontinuation of the S2000. But instead of targeting
the likes of SLK and Z4, they are going to go with a 2.0L engine and
battle it out with the long-time popular Mazda Roadster (Miata in
US). Engine will be the new Advanced VTEC K20A with an output of
about 200-220ps. It will be a milder engine than the S2000, and the
suspension tuning will also follow this route. Styling is said to be
heavily based on the S500/S600/S800, Honda's first 4 wheel
automotive. Dimensions will be slightly smaller than the S2000 with
an overall length of 4000mm, overall width of 1730mm, height of
1250mm, and wheelbase of 2400mm. That's about the same size as the
Mazda Roadster. The roof will be electric powered metal hardtop, and
the car should weight in at 1250kg, which is slightly heavier than
the Mazda, but the extra power in the S will more than make up for
it. It is also probable that the car will be available only with a
clutchless 6spd manual shift transmission. Release date is expected
to be near the end of 2008, with a price of 30,000,000yen

 

In summary...Honda ditched a Hype-R model idea and launched the '08 S2000 CR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Parada &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought it said they were "revisiting the idea" which means to me, they may be planning an s2000-r for 2008, i could be thinking to hard though, (got this from paragraph 2)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uhh they already did, it's called the S2000 CR and it's nowhere near a Type-R level of enhancement. That info you posted is about 4 years old now and was declined by honda back then.

 

I wonder why they would decline something like that...

 

yeah, i deleted that post upon closer reading. sorry

 

Anybody know why this pic is ITR related?

 

If you watch JDM Best Motoring 12/07 "Honda S2000 Type S" (=USDM CR), it was not so impressive from the reviews of the BM regular Pro-drivers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anybody know why this pic is ITR related?

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Because Mr. Shigeru Uehara was the chief engineer for the DC2/DB8 Integra Type-R program.

 

winnaR

 

WINNAAARRRRRR!!! We should all thank this little man.

Your good.

 

Uehara-san



Honda's going to miss that man.

all around

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 330R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uehara-san, Honda's going to miss that man.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What happened? Do tell.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YellowKahuna &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What happened? Do tell.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He retired.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Shigeru Uehara, Executive Chief Engineer, Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Joined Honda R&D Co., Ltd in 1971. Specializes in vehicle stability and handling performance. In 1985, appointed LPL (Large Project Leader) for the mid-ship research project. In 1990, appointed LPL for the NSX development project. Other contributions to Honda’s sports car development include leading the development team for the S2000.</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://world.honda.com/NSX/concept/

 

Mr. Shigeru Uehara is da man ! *bows*

 

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Honda's going to miss that man.

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I already do.

Semi cool story, but not really. So a few months back Honda sent me to this Honda Convention in Chicago to unveil some new stuff, CR being one of them. Mr. Uehara was there. This was the ONLY reason I wanted to be there. I even had my armrest with me in a plastic bag. I wanted him to sign it and then I was gonna hide it forever.
Long story short. I tried 3 seperate times to meet him but everytime I waited to meet him somthing would come up and I never got to meet him. I left Chicago completely pissed off and very hungover. As a matter of fact, I'm starting to get upset just typing this. Now he is back in Japan and I have lost my shot forever.
That was the greatest story that never was. thank you

 

Aw man, that sucks. I would've tried the same and been pissed just the same.




Modified by 330R at 9:17 PM 12/3/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and I never got to meet him. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn, so close. That would have been awesome. Even better if you could shoot the **** with him over some

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In summary...Honda ditched a Hype-R model idea and launched the '08 S2000 CR.</TD></TR></TABLE>


CR is largely cosmetic - power remains the same

boooooo

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JjuuN R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder why they would decline something like that...</TD></TR></TABLE>

1.) The S2000 allready has a small market of sales. The S2K-R would sell even less. Most American buyers of brand new S2000s dont want some hyperactive race car. They want a comfortable, yet powerful and relatively low strung car. See charts of Corvette sales vs. S2000 sales. Old men buy into the market of midlife crisis cars to drive on sundays. They dont want something that's going to make their hemmorhoids act up. They dont care about huge brakes. They'd rather have the soft top.

2.) The F20/22C allready put out VERY impressive power levels. Between 109-120hp/liter. It's also smog legal, an LEV vehicle, and gets very good gas mileage. It was under rated at 20/26. Most people's numbers are more like 25ish/32ish. I know that they weren't proposing a power increase, but then it just becomes an AP2 with stuff removed from it. Bringing me to my next point:

3.) who the hell wants $40k premium level sports car with no radio or AC??

4.) The S2000 allready comes with a red valve cover

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doespike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Damn, so close. That would have been awesome. Even better if you could shoot the **** with him over some </TD></TR></TABLE>
For real. That's all I wanted to do to.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For real. That's all I wanted to do to. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, I always wondered how it must have been in the factory during the ITR program. I would LOVE to see pics of ITRs being assembled at Suzuka....and the parking lot outside with dozens lined up waiting to be shipped out

 

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CR is largely cosmetic - power remains the same

boooooo </TD></TR></TABLE>

Stiffer chassis, quicker steering rack, 90lbs lighter than AP2, different damping/spring rates, bigger sway bars, different wheels/tires (RE070).

UGLY AS HELL.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doespike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, I always wondered how it must have been in the factory during the ITR program. I would LOVE to see pics of ITRs being assembled at Suzuka....and the parking lot outside with dozens lined up waiting to be shipped out </TD></TR></TABLE>
That would've rocked. Surely someone has a pic of our caR's at the factory being assemlbled. Post that up!

 

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CR is largely cosmetic - power remains the same

boooooo </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't say largely cosmetic. It does have some changes, and the aero package, while ugly, works. The suspension upgrades are decent as is the additional bracing.

Of course, the car is so heavy now that the stripped (no AC, no Radio) version of the CR is heavier than the early "loaded" s2000's..

 

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That would've rocked. Surely someone has a pic of our caR's at the factory being assemlbled. Post that up! </TD></TR></TABLE>