Tacking the Tranny apart.
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Im going to be replaceing the main bearings and some gears in the next weekend or so. Im just wanting to start doing my homework now. I've looked over the helms, doesn't seem too complex. Just wondering if anybody had some help or pointers. Or just a complete DIY article with pics would be nice too.
I've searched around but didn't find much. Are the bearing pullers required? Can I use an type of puller? are just some questions I have. I want to have everything when I get it apart.
Thanks
-Dan
I've searched around but didn't find much. Are the bearing pullers required? Can I use an type of puller? are just some questions I have. I want to have everything when I get it apart.
Thanks
-Dan
seems like you are better off letting someone else do it.
unless you have enough time and someone to help you that knows what they are doing.
unless you have enough time and someone to help you that knows what they are doing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which bearings are you replacing?
I can drive up there and do it for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'l try and co-pilot. Josh Fults(Swell_Ryder) is in Indy.
I can drive up there and do it for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'l try and co-pilot. Josh Fults(Swell_Ryder) is in Indy.
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I just pulled mine off on sunday with a friend. It's getting repaired at Acura as of now. I dont mess with the gearbox. I wouldn't if i was you, unless you have the funds or an experienced hand.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Henryx33 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just pulled mine off on sunday with a friend. It's getting repaired at Acura as of now. I dont mess with the gearbox. I wouldn't if i was you, unless you have the funds or an experienced hand.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The internal workings of the tranny are actually quite easy to understand and work with once you have done it a few times.
The internal workings of the tranny are actually quite easy to understand and work with once you have done it a few times.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which bearings are you replacing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have all of the Mains.
I have all of the Mains.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid96EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The internal workings of the tranny are actually quite easy to understand and work with once you have done it a few times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, I'm almost finished up with my bachelors degree for mechanical engineering. So I understand how a lot of things work, thats why I'm not afraid one bit to tear apart the tranny. I looked through the helms more thouroughly and I see Im going to need this.
Required Tools:
Snap Ring plyers Check
Bearing Puller Check
Bearing Press Check (Yes I have a 12 ton press)
Adjustable Bearing Puller (Don't have this is there anohter way to get the bearing out?)
The internal workings of the tranny are actually quite easy to understand and work with once you have done it a few times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, I'm almost finished up with my bachelors degree for mechanical engineering. So I understand how a lot of things work, thats why I'm not afraid one bit to tear apart the tranny. I looked through the helms more thouroughly and I see Im going to need this.
Required Tools:
Snap Ring plyers Check
Bearing Puller Check
Bearing Press Check (Yes I have a 12 ton press)
Adjustable Bearing Puller (Don't have this is there anohter way to get the bearing out?)
you dont need snap ring pliers. two screw drivers does the trick just as easily. slide hammer/puller is very useful. I had a tranny rebuild thread awhile ago, check it out it might be helpful. Black R also had a nice rebuild thread. its really not that difficult. once you have it apart and understand how it all works together its cake. hardest part is putting the change holder assembly back together right (I find its easiest by putting it in 3rd gear to line up all the pieces) and getting the case back on.
**BE CAREFUL PULLING THE MAINSHAFT OUT OF THE CASE, THE TOP BEARING AND GEARS ARE NOT PRESSED ON AND WILL FLY OFF IF YOU PULL ON THEM.
ALSO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A VERY CLEAN AND LARGE WORK SPACE, IT WILL MAKE IT 10X EASIER TO ORGANIZE THE PARTS.
**BE CAREFUL PULLING THE MAINSHAFT OUT OF THE CASE, THE TOP BEARING AND GEARS ARE NOT PRESSED ON AND WILL FLY OFF IF YOU PULL ON THEM.
ALSO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A VERY CLEAN AND LARGE WORK SPACE, IT WILL MAKE IT 10X EASIER TO ORGANIZE THE PARTS.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes, I'm almost finished up with my bachelors degree for mechanical engineering. So I understand how a lot of things work, thats why I'm not afraid one bit to tear apart the tranny. I looked through the helms more thouroughly and I see Im going to need this.
Required Tools:
Snap Ring plyers Check
Bearing Puller Check
Bearing Press Check (Yes I have a 12 ton press)
Adjustable Bearing Puller (Don't have this is there anohter way to get the bearing out?)
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You won't need any of those items...
The snap ring pliers are for the snap ring on the end of the countershaft bearing. Remove the plug and use needlenose to spread the ring while prying gently on the case. It will work flawlessly.
The bearing press isn't needed either. The bearing on the countershaft will simply pull off.. The other gears that are pressed on can easily be remove by tapping on the shaft lightly with a rubber mallet. They will pop off easily and the whole thing comes apart after that. The input shaft you will need either a vise and some 2x4 blocks or an impact to remove the 32mm nut. After that, everything pulls right off.
I've done countless trannies for D series, B series and even H series. They are all pretty similar in some ways. As I said, nothing special in terms of tools is needed. When I did my CTR tranny and put in the 4.75 final I was a little worried also, but found out with time you don't need all the "goodies" they list in the helm.
Yes, I'm almost finished up with my bachelors degree for mechanical engineering. So I understand how a lot of things work, thats why I'm not afraid one bit to tear apart the tranny. I looked through the helms more thouroughly and I see Im going to need this.
Required Tools:
Snap Ring plyers Check
Bearing Puller Check
Bearing Press Check (Yes I have a 12 ton press)
Adjustable Bearing Puller (Don't have this is there anohter way to get the bearing out?)
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You won't need any of those items...
The snap ring pliers are for the snap ring on the end of the countershaft bearing. Remove the plug and use needlenose to spread the ring while prying gently on the case. It will work flawlessly.
The bearing press isn't needed either. The bearing on the countershaft will simply pull off.. The other gears that are pressed on can easily be remove by tapping on the shaft lightly with a rubber mallet. They will pop off easily and the whole thing comes apart after that. The input shaft you will need either a vise and some 2x4 blocks or an impact to remove the 32mm nut. After that, everything pulls right off.
I've done countless trannies for D series, B series and even H series. They are all pretty similar in some ways. As I said, nothing special in terms of tools is needed. When I did my CTR tranny and put in the 4.75 final I was a little worried also, but found out with time you don't need all the "goodies" they list in the helm.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im going to be replaceing the main bearings and some gears in the next weekend or so. Im just wanting to start doing my homework now. I've looked over the helms, doesn't seem too complex. Just wondering if anybody had some help or pointers. Or just a complete DIY article with pics would be nice too.
I've searched around but didn't find much. Are the bearing pullers required? Can I use an type of puller? are just some questions I have. I want to have everything when I get it apart.
Thanks
-Dan</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dan, if you are doing this project in town feel free to give me a ring. PM me for my cell. I am more than will to help out and learn.
-Josh
I've searched around but didn't find much. Are the bearing pullers required? Can I use an type of puller? are just some questions I have. I want to have everything when I get it apart.
Thanks
-Dan</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dan, if you are doing this project in town feel free to give me a ring. PM me for my cell. I am more than will to help out and learn.
-Josh
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Dan, if you are doing this project in town feel free to give me a ring. PM me for my cell. I am more than will to help out and learn.
-Josh</TD></TR></TABLE>
I will be doing this at my parents house in Lebanon which is about 15 min north of Indy. Anybody is welcome to join. I don't have a set date of when I'm doing it. Ive gotten the bearings (Thanks Len) and still waiting on the gears. So it might not be till 8th or around there. I've also got a DSM up there with the motor out so I can't be working on too many cars at the same time. Pisses my parents off for taking their garage space. I will make a post, or reply to this one when I get a certain date to see if anybody wants to join. I also picked up the dvd already that was metioned in this thread. I can make some copies (cough cough backup's) for anybody thats lost theirs and needs it replaced.
Dan, if you are doing this project in town feel free to give me a ring. PM me for my cell. I am more than will to help out and learn.
-Josh</TD></TR></TABLE>
I will be doing this at my parents house in Lebanon which is about 15 min north of Indy. Anybody is welcome to join. I don't have a set date of when I'm doing it. Ive gotten the bearings (Thanks Len) and still waiting on the gears. So it might not be till 8th or around there. I've also got a DSM up there with the motor out so I can't be working on too many cars at the same time. Pisses my parents off for taking their garage space. I will make a post, or reply to this one when I get a certain date to see if anybody wants to join. I also picked up the dvd already that was metioned in this thread. I can make some copies (cough cough backup's) for anybody thats lost theirs and needs it replaced.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94rs-turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive gotten mine put back together but i cant figure out the locking ring </TD></TR></TABLE>
Spread it using needlenose while you GENTLY tap on the case using a rubber mallet. Should all fall back into place assuming you lined up everything correctly. After you get the case all bolted up, turn the tranny "upside down" (input shaft facing up) and the snap ring should click and lock into place.
Spread it using needlenose while you GENTLY tap on the case using a rubber mallet. Should all fall back into place assuming you lined up everything correctly. After you get the case all bolted up, turn the tranny "upside down" (input shaft facing up) and the snap ring should click and lock into place.
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