I know a lot of you out there reseach the mini me and get ready to do the swap and you expect big gains. Yes you will now have vtec. Yes your head will flow a little better and will have 1 mm bigger valves and yes you will have higher compression.

When I did mine it was probably one of the first kinda engine builds I did (if you can even call it an engine build). I researched the hell out of it. I did everything right. OBD 1 conversion, phearable.net chipped p28 ecu. Replaced TB WP HG had the head gone through and milled and used a brand new distributer.

Well to be quite honest I was actually not that happy with it. I mean I had expected so much more pep and yeah it was a little peppier. Mine is a 91 si so it is heavy and slow to begin with. But I had expected so much more than what it actually did and I had spent a fair amount and money doing everything right.

Now looking at my motor I had the desire to have a lot more power and the power goals I wanted I decided I need to be turboed. But a turboed mini-me just wouldn't handle that since the high compression. I didn't want to have to run race gas everywhere. So sad to say it I said bye bye to the mini-me and sold it for like 250 bucks.

I am kinda broke so me bieng cheap and wanting a motor for my car traded an obx type-r spoiler from my wrecked 94 integra for a z6 that had spun a bearing and had some goodies with it. I went through and rebuilt the z6 threw in a raceeng blockguard, some arp head studs, a zex 59300 cam with valvesprings, bough a b18 TB and a y8 intake mani and jg cam gear all for fairly cheap.

And now I am sitting here with my motor and a completely broke college student just planning my turbo kit. I know exactly what I want but I am broke so I was thinking if I had just turboed the a6 to begin with I would have more power than I do right now.

Long story short I was bored and wanted to write something and I wasted a lot of time with mini-me and then next swap I should have just turboed the a6 to begin with and blew it up or gone b-series I hope this is somewhat interesting or insightful to someone

 

not tryin to make anyone mad with this just thought I would offer some insight from what I have learned.

 

You have to remember that Minimes are still low compression engines. Compression is what gives an NA engine the get up and go it wants. Having a lighter rotating assembly (flywheel is the easiest/cheapest thing to do, then it's lighter rims and tires) would make the delivery of the small power alot better. Shorter gears help too.

You might have overlooked alot of the standard NA build parts needed to make a respectable NA D series.

 

The A6 would probally be just as fast if not a bit slower due to the head difference comparing z6/a6.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have to remember that Minimes are still low compression engines. Compression is what gives an NA engine the get up and go it wants. Having a lighter rotating assembly (flywheel is the easiest/cheapest thing to do, then it's lighter rims and tires) would make the delivery of the small power alot better. Shorter gears help too.

You might have overlooked alot of the standard NA build parts needed to make a respectable NA D series.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea I understand there is a lot mor I could have done... I had a set of d16a1 pistons I was thinkin about putting in there and I was thinkin about throwin in a cam and getting some headwork done. I mainly made this post because so many people look into the mini me conversion and I think they are expecting alot more than what they are actually going to get I was just tryin to say that I would have been better off if I never did the mini me and went another route to begin with.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have to remember that Minimes are still low compression engines. Compression is what gives an NA engine the get up and go it wants. Having a lighter rotating assembly (flywheel is the easiest/cheapest thing to do, then it's lighter rims and tires) would make the delivery of the small power alot better. Shorter gears help too.

You might have overlooked alot of the standard NA build parts needed to make a respectable NA D series.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. People need to realize that bumping up your compression 1 point is not going to make a ton of difference in power.

I probably could of made more power if I swapped pistons and left the a6 head on but I was young and stupid. Oh well, live and learn.

 

the z6 head does flow a little bit better and rev a little bit higher...but it is not gonna be as great as people expect....the one good thing I did get out of it was that it was the first thing I ever really did to a car and after doing it I had a lot more confidence to tackle a lot harder projects

 

LOL sorry to say, but yes mini-me's are not supposed to be that great. Most people who swap them in are expecting B series power, but everyone is different. I personally did a mini-me swap because I found a head for cheap, and comparing a 48,000 Y8 head to my 182,000 a6 head I would say that is worth it. The reason why people convert to OBD1 is not only to be safe, but because most of those people will go on to add more such as FI. Sorry you found out the hard way, I wasn't expecting anything but a more higher stable rev and I got it!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89efDUSTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL sorry to say, but yes mini-me's are not supposed to be that great. Most people who swap them in are expecting B series power, but everyone is different. I personally did a mini-me swap because I found a head for cheap, and comparing a 48,000 Y8 head to my 182,000 a6 head I would say that is worth it. The reason why people convert to OBD1 is not only to be safe, but because most of those people will go on to add more such as FI. Sorry you found out the hard way, I wasn't expecting anything but a more higher stable rev and I got it!
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lol i like your sig!!! made me laugh!

 

yeah, tell me about it, i read mini me this and that and it was so hyped up, i went and bought two y8 motors from a dude, pulled the heads and started looking into what is would cost me to do a mini me THE RIGHT WAY, with the **** you mentioned and stuff and decided i can just add a little spray to the a6 and call it a day with more power than the mini me and just pay 5 bucks a pound for SQUEEZ YO. lol When im done ****** with dirtbikes, i am building a few a6s to dick with, one nitrous monster, and one turbo monster. Im sure ill blow a bunch up, but owell, what else to do in college than build motors, where i just got accepted (im still in HS) i am within walking distance of a tuner shop that dyno tunes...YIPPEE

 

i had an a6 in my 91 hf, then i slapped a y8 head on it. i made 115 to the wheels and thought i'll build a block with higher compression... yeah so i built a blown up y7 block, put ls rods, pm6 pistons had it ballanced and blue printed. my car feels the same as before. I should have just bought a used gsr swap for the same amount. live and learn i guess

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by steveo123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had an a6 in my 91 hf, then i slapped a y8 head on it. i made 115 to the wheels and thought i'll build a block with higher compression... yeah so i built a blown up y7 block, put ls rods, pm6 pistons had it ballanced and blue printed. my car feels the same as before. I should have just bought a used gsr swap for the same amount. live and learn i guess</TD></TR></TABLE>

Should of used PM7 pistons and seen a real difference.

 

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lol i like your sig!!! made me laugh! </TD></TR></TABLE> hahaha thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gator88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, tell me about it, i read mini me this and that and it was so hyped up</TD></TR></TABLE> LOL I was the one who bought your y8 dizzy, I swapped a new cap and rotor on it, put it on my car and I am now selling it! LOL

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Should of used PM7 pistons and seen a real difference.</TD></TR></TABLE> A1 power!

 

my bad i ment pm7's. i have 245 psi in every cylinder, and cant figure out why it falls on its face. i had my vafc stollen so i was running it with no vtec and i just put my new one on yesterday and it feels slower than before. I raced my buddy who has my old set up yesterday and we were dead even.