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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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hi, i have a b18c5 and i was changing the timing belt and was having some issues. when ever i put the timing belt on it ends up moving just a little. first i lined up the crank with the tdc mark and then the cam gears with their marks then put the belt on. after i turn the motor three teeth, i tighten the tennstioner and rotate the motor six times, and it ends up being a little off everytime. any help would be very helpful, thanks.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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what is off? the alignment of the TDC marks, or the tension of the belt?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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the alignment of the tdc marks
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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i think your supposed to turn the crand 5-6 times, then tighten the tensioner, then move it forward 3 teeth.

are you working from a shop manual?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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ok,from the honda manual:

after lining up the TDC marks, install timing belt
1: crankshaft
2: adjusting pulley
3: water pump pulley
4: exhaust camshaft pulley
5: intake camshaft pulley

loosen and retighten the adjusting bolt to tension the belt

rotate crankshaft about 4 or 6 turns counter clockwise so that the belt postitions on the pulleys

adjust timing belt tension:loosen the bolt 1/2 turn, rotate crankshaft counter clockwise 3 teeth on the pulley tighten adjusting bolt

check the crankshaft pulley and camshaft pulley at TDC

i had some trouble with mine to just be patient

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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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that sounds way harder then the common way at the dealership. line all your marks up, install a couple screwdrivers in the holes up top to hold the cams straight, put belt on starting with the front of the motor leaving all slack in the back on the tensioner, push tensioner with finger pressure until slack is gone and tighten 14mm on tensioner. done.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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yes those cam lock tools sure would be a good investment, i was just copying right from the service manual
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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you guys all make it waaay to hard. Just take a wire coat hanger, get it in the hole on the tensioner where the spring is...pullup with some force until the belt is good and tight and you or someone else tighten the 14mm bolt.

The belt will be slightly off at the crank no matter what you do..unless your off by a tooth on the cam gears, which if you do it right and tension properly you won't be, you will have no issues.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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That's how i do mines
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys all make it waaay to hard. Just take a wire coat hanger, get it in the hole on the tensioner where the spring is...pullup with some force until the belt is good and tight and you or someone else tighten the 14mm bolt.

The belt will be slightly off at the crank no matter what you do..unless your off by a tooth on the cam gears, which if you do it right and tension properly you won't be, you will have no issues.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Worked for me.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys all make it waaay to hard. Just take a wire coat hanger, get it in the hole on the tensioner where the spring is...pullup with some force until the belt is good and tight and you or someone else tighten the 14mm bolt.

The belt will be slightly off at the crank no matter what you do..unless your off by a tooth on the cam gears, which if you do it right and tension properly you won't be, you will have no issues.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's exactly what I found when I did mine. I tried the Helm's way two times and the belt jumped a tooth or two each time. I was soooo pissed and had to realign each time.

Coat hanger ftw
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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sorry, i was just reading the service manual, i think i did the coat hanger too, just wanted to give accurate advice.

i was so tired when i was at that point i dont remember anything.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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allright thanks for all the help. i have tried all those ways already, even the coat hanger. but i will try agian today, and will tell u if i have any luck. thanks.
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