What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street
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What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street
i want to get a set of DOT slicks or very sticky street tires for the new 15's i will be getting. what should i get, these tires will only be on in the summer months, i have another set fort the fall/winter use. considering brands like toyo, falken, bridgestone/firestone, kuhmo, pirelli. any suggestions, something in a 205/50/15 preferably.
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (401-2001)
i have talked to alot of people who like the kuhmo victo-racers(sp?), but i don't think you would get them to last the whole summer if you drive them on the street, just use them at track events and they should last a while
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (gsr98vtec)
Yoko 032R are very good on the dry roads. Don't do crazy things in the wet. Also they will probably only last you one summer (less if you track them).
BTW I don't think full slicks are allowed for street use (at least in Canada).
BTW I don't think full slicks are allowed for street use (at least in Canada).
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (gsr98vtec)
Are these "slicks" for the quarter mile or AutoX or just for ripping in the street?
If you want street rippin ties save some cash and get the Azenis.
If you want street rippin ties save some cash and get the Azenis.
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (FAST94GSR)
basically i want something i can just rip around town in with the occasional visit to the track to check my 1/4 time. what do the BF Goodrich run? where can i pick them up at online or locally type shops?
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (gsr98vtec)
you knwo what m they arent rated for racing , but the toyo t1-s are great tires , bot wet and dry,
better when hot out , they grip like hell.
and last pretty long too , falken azeni are good too ,but dont last long.
bfgs aint badm but expensive and dont last long .
better when hot out , they grip like hell.
and last pretty long too , falken azeni are good too ,but dont last long.
bfgs aint badm but expensive and dont last long .
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (gsr98vtec)
if your going to run the tires every day buy the bf drag radial , but if your going to street race then change them buy the mh dot slick 
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Think of tires across a spectrum from the stickiest, fastest-wearing tires to the less sticky, longer-lasting tires, and you come out with a list that looks like this, starting with the stickiest and working down from there:
1. Drag Radials: BFGoodrich g-Force T/A Drag Radial (won't last very long)
2. Other R Compound Tires: Yokohama A032R, Hoosier R3S04 and A3S05, Toyo RA-1, etc (typical treadlife 2-4K miles)
3. Specialty Super-Sticky Street Tires: Falken Azenis RT-615, Hankook R-S2 Z212 (typical treadlife 10K miles)
4. Best Top-of-the-Line Street Tires: Goodyear F1 GS-D3, Bridgestone RE010 and S-03, Dunlop SP Sport Maxx, etc (typical treadlife 15-25K miles)
5. "Value" Top-of-the-Line Street Tires: Toyo T-1R, Kumho Ecsta MX (typical treadlife 15-25K miles)
6. Budget Performance, "Bang for the Buck" Tires: Yokohama AVS ES100, Kumho Ecsta SPT, Dunlop Direzza DZ101, etc (typical treadlife 25-40K miles)
7. All-season tires: Kumho Ecsta ASX, Pirelli PZero Nero M+S, etc (typical treadlife 25-50K miles)
So then the question becomes where you want to draw the line. I wouldn't use ANY track tire (drag radial - category 1 or R compound - category 2) on the street, just because they wear so rapidly, and also because some of them need to be warmed up before they get really sticky. But they do have the ultimate grip.
Based on what you have said, I think the best tires for your purposes would be the Falken Azenis RT-615 or the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212. These tires are designed to be in between a top street tire and an R compound tire in performance (and treadlife), which is exactly what you should be looking for IMHO. The Hankook is somewhat less expensive than the Falken. You can get both at Discount Tire.
1. Drag Radials: BFGoodrich g-Force T/A Drag Radial (won't last very long)
2. Other R Compound Tires: Yokohama A032R, Hoosier R3S04 and A3S05, Toyo RA-1, etc (typical treadlife 2-4K miles)
3. Specialty Super-Sticky Street Tires: Falken Azenis RT-615, Hankook R-S2 Z212 (typical treadlife 10K miles)
4. Best Top-of-the-Line Street Tires: Goodyear F1 GS-D3, Bridgestone RE010 and S-03, Dunlop SP Sport Maxx, etc (typical treadlife 15-25K miles)
5. "Value" Top-of-the-Line Street Tires: Toyo T-1R, Kumho Ecsta MX (typical treadlife 15-25K miles)
6. Budget Performance, "Bang for the Buck" Tires: Yokohama AVS ES100, Kumho Ecsta SPT, Dunlop Direzza DZ101, etc (typical treadlife 25-40K miles)
7. All-season tires: Kumho Ecsta ASX, Pirelli PZero Nero M+S, etc (typical treadlife 25-50K miles)
So then the question becomes where you want to draw the line. I wouldn't use ANY track tire (drag radial - category 1 or R compound - category 2) on the street, just because they wear so rapidly, and also because some of them need to be warmed up before they get really sticky. But they do have the ultimate grip.
Based on what you have said, I think the best tires for your purposes would be the Falken Azenis RT-615 or the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212. These tires are designed to be in between a top street tire and an R compound tire in performance (and treadlife), which is exactly what you should be looking for IMHO. The Hankook is somewhat less expensive than the Falken. You can get both at Discount Tire.
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (gsr98vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 205/50/15 preferably</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (gsr98vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the BFG t/a drag radials street legal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they are only r rated?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure there is even an "official" R rating. But they are designed for the dragstrip, not for street driving. That doesn't mean you can't drive them on the street, only that they won't last very long. BFG doesn't assign a treadwear rating to them (it's shown as zero).
Yes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they are only r rated?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure there is even an "official" R rating. But they are designed for the dragstrip, not for street driving. That doesn't mean you can't drive them on the street, only that they won't last very long. BFG doesn't assign a treadwear rating to them (it's shown as zero).
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (gsr98vtec)
I can't believe folks would run VictoRacers on the street. Maybe the R comp learning curve has progressed from three years ago?
Yoko ES 100's are a great deal. I recently did an autocross on them after cording my SO 4's and the traction and turn in is better than I thought. However, the breaking was, well, so-so but it's good for practicing braking zones.
Yoko ES 100's are a great deal. I recently did an autocross on them after cording my SO 4's and the traction and turn in is better than I thought. However, the breaking was, well, so-so but it's good for practicing braking zones.
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (zygspeed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good info, but its still another thread back from the dead! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny! I didn't even notice that. I don't know why people would resurrect a three-year-old topic unless it's to question something or provide relevant information. Trying to help someone who was looking for tires three years ago is certainly going to be about three years too late.
What's also interesting is how many of the best tires around have been introduced since this topic was discussed. Three years ago, the A032R was the tire to use at the track; there are a lot more choices now, and if any tire has taken over that role, it's the RA-1. Falken was selling the old Azenis RT-215, which was the only tire in that category. The Bridgestone S-03 was by far the best general-purpose, general-application street tire available, whereas today, tires like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 and the Dunlop SP Sport Maxx and the Yoko Advan Neova are competitive. The Yoko ES100 had just come out, and there was nothing around to compete with it in the value category (whereas there have been a bunch of competing entries since then).
</TD></TR></TABLE>Funny! I didn't even notice that. I don't know why people would resurrect a three-year-old topic unless it's to question something or provide relevant information. Trying to help someone who was looking for tires three years ago is certainly going to be about three years too late.
What's also interesting is how many of the best tires around have been introduced since this topic was discussed. Three years ago, the A032R was the tire to use at the track; there are a lot more choices now, and if any tire has taken over that role, it's the RA-1. Falken was selling the old Azenis RT-215, which was the only tire in that category. The Bridgestone S-03 was by far the best general-purpose, general-application street tire available, whereas today, tires like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 and the Dunlop SP Sport Maxx and the Yoko Advan Neova are competitive. The Yoko ES100 had just come out, and there was nothing around to compete with it in the value category (whereas there have been a bunch of competing entries since then).
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (nsxtasy)
just got a Car and Driver in the mail the other day, and they tested 11 perf. tires....
tried to find a link but could not....
results
11. khumo ecsta mx
10. bfg g-force t/a kd
9. b-stone potenza reo50a
8. toyo prox t1r
7.pirelli p 0 rosso asimmetrico
6. dunlop sp sport max
5. hankook rs-2 z212
4. mich pilot sport ps2
3. yoko advan noe ad07
2. conti contisportcontact 2
1. goodyear eagle f1 gs-d3
i have been running the hankooks for about a month now and am very happy...
tried to find a link but could not....
results
11. khumo ecsta mx
10. bfg g-force t/a kd
9. b-stone potenza reo50a
8. toyo prox t1r
7.pirelli p 0 rosso asimmetrico
6. dunlop sp sport max
5. hankook rs-2 z212
4. mich pilot sport ps2
3. yoko advan noe ad07
2. conti contisportcontact 2
1. goodyear eagle f1 gs-d3
i have been running the hankooks for about a month now and am very happy...
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (cmdr430)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just got a Car and Driver in the mail the other day, and they tested 11 perf. tires....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Those results don't surprise me at all. The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 is an outstanding tire. If you go to the Tire Rack and look at the user survey results for their highest performance category of street tires, the Goodyear is ranked first out of the 24 tires rated. It also did well in side-by-side comparison tests against other top tires. The fact that it's priced significantly less than other top tires like the S-03 is just another bonus. Too bad it doesn't come in any 15" sizes that are suitable for the ITR, only 195/50-15.
Those results don't surprise me at all. The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 is an outstanding tire. If you go to the Tire Rack and look at the user survey results for their highest performance category of street tires, the Goodyear is ranked first out of the 24 tires rated. It also did well in side-by-side comparison tests against other top tires. The fact that it's priced significantly less than other top tires like the S-03 is just another bonus. Too bad it doesn't come in any 15" sizes that are suitable for the ITR, only 195/50-15.
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Re: What tires to buy, need something like a DOT slick for the street (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Based on what you have said, I think the best tires for your purposes would be the Falken Azenis RT-615 or the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have to agree with Ken that unless you're running down to the local drag strip every night and throwing your street car up against racers, these two choices would be the best.
Both of them perform surprisingly well in both wet and dry weather.
However, their performance drops off rapidly as the temperatures drop and you should not expect them to perform at their best in freezing weather regardless of whether there is snow or rain.
You can spend a lot more money for your tyres than the Hankook and Falken are going to cost, but you reach the point of diminishing returns. I don't think the P Zero A or the Michelin Pilot Sport are worth the extra money, for example.
Just IMHO.
I have to agree with Ken that unless you're running down to the local drag strip every night and throwing your street car up against racers, these two choices would be the best.
Both of them perform surprisingly well in both wet and dry weather.
However, their performance drops off rapidly as the temperatures drop and you should not expect them to perform at their best in freezing weather regardless of whether there is snow or rain.
You can spend a lot more money for your tyres than the Hankook and Falken are going to cost, but you reach the point of diminishing returns. I don't think the P Zero A or the Michelin Pilot Sport are worth the extra money, for example.
Just IMHO.
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