at 6-7lbs... on street tires... i cannot hit lower than a 14.3 (based on 2 times ive been out at the track). slicks ive hit 13.8 for my best run. to me... spending $5000+ on this turbo setup just to hit 14s daily is really disappointing. i see people do this easy on basic boltons. maybe this LS motor aint that crackin. i see boosted GSRs doing 13s easy on the same amount of boost. blah blah blah... i know vtec is alot better and yada yada yada... but daym... ever since i turned up the boost to 6-7lbs, instead of 5lbs... i havent seen much of a difference in my 1/4 times. traction is an issue... but daym, its ridiculous because i see people with the same traction issues and they are havin no problem runnin lower times or beatin me in a street race. ARGGHHHH!

sorry to vent my frustration... but im thinkin about gettin out of the darkside.

EDIT:
for those of you who are interested on what set-up i have:
-DRAG 3 turbo kit
-ACT HD 6puck clutch
-manual boost controller
-2.5 exhuast
-only suspension mod i have are coilovers


[Modified by dlplayboy, 2:45 PM 6/20/2002]

 

remember gsr's are running higher compression so they will make more power at a lower boost.

can you post all of your information everthing about your car and all the stats from running at the track?

 

Why don't you buy a NuFormz blockguard, invest in Hondata 4b, and run 20 lbs. of boost?

 

are 1/4 mile times really that important to u?

 

Arent they to most on the forced induction forum? I know they are to me anyway. I would be pretty upset too, but, what traps were you pulling??

 

SURE!

my setup:
-t3/t4
-vortech fmu 12:1
-airtex inline fuel pump (w/ stock injectors)
-intercooler and piping
-weapon*r filter
-drag3 exhaust manifold
-hks ss bov
-autometer boost guage
-autometer air/fuel guage
-joe p manual boost controller
-2.5 downpipe
-"modified" cat (hehe)
-Tanabe 2.5 muffler and piping
-act hd 6puck clutch
-weapon*r coilovers

 

loose the weapon R filter and get one that actually allows air in. Also get a AVC-R or something similar and tune it on the dyno.


[Modified by Rboosted717, 3:24 PM 6/20/2002]

 

What is your trap speed at the end of the 1/4?

 

i would invest in a hondata and boost more.. but daym, i dont know if i really want to do that anymore. turning up the boost is just a one way solution.. there are more things i have to upgrade.. which is more $$$! its one thing.. if i wanted to one of the fastest competing imports out there... but when you just wanna have a simple quick car for the streets... it gets costly and not worth it.


most recent timeslip: 6/12/02
reaction: 1.001
I1: 2.275
I2: 6.278
I3: 9.478
MPH(I3): 78.497
I4: 12.205

E.T.: 14.501
MPH: 99.042

 

yes, because they reflect the potential my car has. my friend pulled a 14.2 the same day we went to the track.. and beat my *** in a street race a few nights before by almost a car length.

 

actually, the weaponR filter is a good filter. the sponge element is similar to the HKS filters. supposedly to the Apexi filter as well. im not too fond of the paper element filters.

 

If you want to see if you filter is good go to your local autoparts store (NAPA if you got em or I am sure Pepboys will have the equipment) and ask them to test your air filter...I know my Napa has little unit you put your air filter and and it will draw air and push up a ball, then you can put a K&N filter one (paper) and see the difference...just a suggestion

 

crank up theboost man

 

maybe drop the cat and go straight pipe.. my times are a bit similiar.. i'll pull a 99 if i'm messing around and sometimes 103 if i get everything all right.. my best time was 13.7 @ 102 on 8 psi i believe..

 

I would think those times are about right for a LS with a DRAG kit. You have the stock FMU so you're not tuned all that great (rich) so thats some HP there. 6-7 psi isn't all that much either. Is that 2.5" exhaust mandrel bent? I don't know if you have adjustable coilovers but a stiffened suspension will help launches also. I think a little bit of all those things would bring ET up so i'd start there. Oh yea and is your B18 in a teg? Thats alot more weight compared to a swapped civic.


[Modified by Honda Hick, 6:59 PM 6/20/2002]

 

get an avcr and put your car on the dyno.....easy 13's not only will you be able to help wheelspin, you will prevent lag, spool your turbo quicker, and maintain steady boost better. and putting your car on the dyno will easily give you a huge power increase. hondata is worth every penny if you got it.

 

if you got a hondata, you could run right and push 10psi, no prob. I'm sure you'd be well into the 13s. that set-up cost you $5000? I think that might be what's depressing you...just get on a dyno, feel alot better for $200

 

here's a couple possible problems I noticed right away from looking at your setup. you're running a 8:1 rising rate fuel pressure fuel solution on stock injectors. Ideally the setup will work but since you're having problems I'd check out your injector's. Try a basic injector pulse pressure test. I assume you have the car dialed in (since you spent 5k already) so I'll leave your map alone. What are the specific specs on your t3/4? Gutting a cat doesn't really create a good situation since you loose a lot of exit velocity due to pool baffling. Course stock catalyst would do the same except now you pollute more. Try a real low restriction cat that uses precious metals. your 2.5 system should be creating a bottleneck, but not enough to warrant your performance. I would guess your "traction problems" are a bit worse than your friend's. What wheel/tire type and size are you running. Also, how's the car doing in the weight department? Lose the audio and standard stuff(seats, spare, fat girl). Btw, your trap isn't great but its not as bad as your et. the 60' is particularly bad and while I'm picking your r/t wasn't spectacular either, not that it matters but it would make you slower against an opponent (strip or street)

 

lol fat girl...hehe, i'm sorry that was a good one.

"honey i'm sorry...but you gotta get out the car, you're slowin me down with your big ***" LOL, jk

 

8:1 he said "-vortech fmu 12:1"

well am i the only one that noticed his reaction time "reaction: 1.001" i have been on this site long enough to notice that most peoples reaction time is half a second or just past. If you pratice that you should get low 14's if not high 13's. also your "modified" cat could cause turblence and their for hender performance. I say put a cat back in there or take it off all together.

 

reaction time does not effect your E.T. it only really counts in a bracket race. the timer does not trip until you leave the line.

 

Get a GS-R then.

 

Why get a gs-r when you can just get the engine

 

I dunno what to tell you man. Seems like something is wrong. I have posted some great times with my setup thats untuned and on low boost (7psi). I will easily be in the 12's next visit at the track.
I think that you should pay attention to the fuel system.

 

Maybe you are another guy with their inline fuel pump wired backwards......