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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Doing a color change from red to white.
All in garage
Paint will probably be done either in the garage all prepped or booth if I can make it.
This is a second car so not pressed for time.

My plan of attack is to sand down to the metal on dings I can't tap out... Apply 2 wet coats epoxy primer over metal (didn't choose a paint system yet, leaning towards omni, nason since i'm a noob).

scuff it up lightly with some 80 apply filler (evercoat)... block with 180....

then apply 2 layers of 2k primer

block again with 180

apply 2 layers of 2k if i break through

(apply evercoat eurosoft putty if there are pinholes)

final block sand will be wet with 400-600 (all block sanding will be with guide coat)

base

clear


I have been researching and reading so many debates, arguments, and being side tracked by many interesting aspects of painting. I've weeded out by what I've assumed whom were knowledgeable people and came up with this. Just need all little more confidence and I'm going to start this project.

I understand the how-to sort of... It's going be a while for technique... but I have the will to learn!
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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decided to just go ppg... gonna just start off using the omni prep stuff heard nothing but good things.. might go with good stuff if i am comforable with my ability with the gun

I have a finshiline 3 gun should be coming in tomorrow.
wondering if this is good enough to use for clear?

gonna buy a hb gun for primer...

33gal 2hp craftsman compressor since i maybe moving in a year and don't want to lug a huge one around.

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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Way to go with the PPG. Thats all I use and LOVE it. Any gun can lay down materials good if you know the gun.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 02:48 AM
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PPG is good stuff. That's what I shoot unless I'm at work and then it's DuPont. But for personal and side jobs it's all PPG.

The 2021 clear is a good beginner clear. The Omni pre-paint things are great.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 04:07 AM
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your plan of attack all sounds good to me... Only thing i would add is a coat of sealer before you base and clear... WORKS WONDERS!! especially on a big color transition like that
good luck bro!
also make sure that compressor can hold enough cfm for those guns to spray properly
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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thanks guys...


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alltech_hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your plan of attack all sounds good to me... Only thing i would add is a coat of sealer before you base and clear... WORKS WONDERS!! especially on a big color transition like that
good luck bro!
also make sure that compressor can hold enough cfm for those guns to spray properly </TD></TR></TABLE>

when would I apply sealer before base (without sanding correct)? I thought if I used a white tinted primer it would keep the paints from bleeding?

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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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I also shoot sealer before shooting any base. The sealer is applied before the base. The sealer also dosen't need to be sanded, only if it isn't layed down right you will have to sand and redo.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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correct.... some colors have tinted sealers to go with that color.. you shoot it right before base.. give it bout 10 min flash time and then spray base.. its a wet wet thing so dont wait too long to spray the base..
it will help with coverage and bleeding
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alltech_hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">correct.... some colors have tinted sealers to go with that color.. you shoot it right before base.. give it bout 10 min flash time and then spray base.. its a wet wet thing so dont wait too long to spray the base..
it will help with coverage and bleeding </TD></TR></TABLE>

Very true,be also sure when you spray sealer to spray it like a misty coat .Example:like if you were spraying it on a newspaper you want to be able to still read through it.But thats pretty much it and have fun dude .
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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damn i'm having a hard time looking for a place that sells ppg products... anyone go ta number or something? i'm in the va beach area if anyone could point me in the right direction... i'm gonna start calling on monday but see if i can get some names before the weekend ends... so at least i'll have a selection to choose from...

i found a place that does nothing but dupont but idk...
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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just out of curiosity, why are u stripping the whole car? if it doesnt need it i wouldnt recommend it. i would say just sand the paint that is ont their. and as stated above, seal it. sealer isnt just for color purposes, it also provides adhesion
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20powereDA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just out of curiosity, why are u stripping the whole car? if it doesnt need it i wouldnt recommend it. i would say just sand the paint that is ont their. and as stated above, seal it. sealer isnt just for color purposes, it also provides adhesion</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i'm doing... sending to the metal for dings and dents... pull , filler, epoxy, high build primer, block, high build and block till all one color then seal, bc, and then cc
?
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Why just not go with BASF lol
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by learning process &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thats what i'm doing... sending to the metal for dings and dents... pull , filler, epoxy, high build primer, block, high build and block till all one color then seal, bc, and then cc
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i understand thats what ur doing, but is their a purpose? chances are that ur whole car doesnt need to be stripped. IMO, its a waste of materials and lots of time
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blue2000em1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why just not go with BASF lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

buy it for me and I will!!! I heard nothing but good stuff... glasuire or something like that correct? maybe when i have a real job so if i mess up i won't cry... lol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20powereDA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i understand thats what ur doing, but is their a purpose? chances are that ur whole car doesnt need to be stripped. IMO, its a waste of materials and lots of time</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry if you are misunderstanding me but i mean JUST the sections where there are dings... i'm too lazy and poor to sand the whole car
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Yes Glasurit but you don't need that j/p yes glasurit is by far the best base/clear/primer lol.Alot of maufacturers like Maybach,Ferrari,Porsche use them.So I think you be in good hands lmao.But beauty has it's cost lmao
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blue2000em1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes Glasurit but you don't need that j/p yes glasurit is by far the best base/clear/primer lol.Alot of maufacturers like Maybach,Ferrari,Porsche use them.So I think you be in good hands lmao.But beauty has it's cost lmao </TD></TR></TABLE>

nice commercial in your sig... now i want to paint my car with basf just so i can put that sticker lol... i wish, but i need to commit haha

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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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just came back from buying some materials... shop-line epoxy primer and 2k primer... with hardeners and reducer...

now i need a compressor... talk about buying out of order...
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