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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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i have a 2000 civic si coming out of the shop soon and its going to have close to 500hp at the wheels.i have a 3 point password jdm strut bar,im still using the stock motor mounts,i have stage 5 axles from driveshaftshop and a brand new tranny.can you guys tell me what i should expect to break from here if im going to be drag racing and what else i should get to prevent anything from happening?
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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If you're not breaking parts.... you're not going fast enough.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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I would think your mounts are going to get trashed before long, a good set of mounts will help prevent a lot of other stuff from getting trashed as well.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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i also have full race traction bars which gives a extra motor mount
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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with that much power don't most tracks require a roll cage?
or is that depending on the location.

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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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if your Si is like mine, expect every little god damn piece of **** to break... it's just how it works, the little things are the ones that **** you off to, good luck, that power is fun.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zboog929 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 2000 civic si coming out of the shop soon and its going to have close to 500hp at the wheels.i have a 3 point password jdm strut bar,im still using the stock motor mounts,i have stage 5 axles from driveshaftshop and a brand new tranny.can you guys tell me what i should expect to break from here if im going to be drag racing and what else i should get to prevent anything from happening?
thanx for your help</TD></TR></TABLE>

what kind of clutch? what kind of build does the engine have?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instrument &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with that much power don't most tracks require a roll cage?
or is that depending on the location.

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depends on et's and/or mph

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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Did you get limited slip put on the tranny? I wouldnt put an open diff. tranny on there with that much power just cuz you spent all that money and wont even utilize all of the power. What mods/internals are you running?
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Hasport mounts ftw
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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The motor mounts woun't hold for long at those power levels. traction bars or not. I would upgrade those. Otherwise be carefull about dumping the clutch and preloading and you should be pretty good.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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what motor setup are you running?
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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id say plan on breaking your back. get a cage and harnesses and take it slow!
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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I WENT WITH A GSR BLOCK WITH
CP PISTONS AND RINGS
EAGLE RODS
BLOCK GUARD
STOCK GSR CRANK
RC 720CC INJECTORS
VORTECH FUEL RISER
FUEL RAIL,REGUALTOR LINES AND FITTINGS
POWER FC COMMANDER
TURBONECTICS T62 TWIN SCROLL
FULL RACE HEADER
EDLEBROCK INTAKE MANIFOLD
GREDDY OIL COOLER

IM RUNNING A LS TRANNY WITH A CARBON PLATE LSD AND A STAGE 5 ACT CLUTCH
I WAS TOLD THAT WITH HASPORT MOTOR MOUNTS ITS GOING TO GIVE THE CAR A ANNOYING VIBRATION,IS THAT TRUE? HOW LONG WILL THE STOCK MOTOR MOUNTS HOLD FOR AND ARE THEY EASY TO INSTALL?
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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I FORGOT TO MENTION GSR TYPE R CAMS
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Stock transmission? 500 horsepower? Don't be surprised if any of your gears, synchros, shafts, or bearings break.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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WHAT SHOULD I HAVE GOT? I WENT WITH A NEW INTEGRA LS TRANNY
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Others might tell you a stock transmission is okay, perhaps cryo-treat the internals or upgrade the synchronizers. But understand that I'm an overkill kind of guy, so to be safe than sorry I would recommend a conversion to a dog ring transmission with straight cut gears. Also, I'm assuming that if you're like most people, your power will continue to increase.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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THANX FOR THE INFO,IM THINKING THE TRANNY SHOULD HOLD UP FOR A WHILE,IM PROB GOING TO PLAN ON BUILDING ONE SO IT CAN BE BULLET PROOF.....AND 500HP SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR NOW
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hardedge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Others might tell you a stock transmission is okay, perhaps cryo-treat the internals or upgrade the synchronizers. But understand that I'm an overkill kind of guy, so to be safe than sorry I would recommend a conversion to a dog ring transmission with straight cut gears. Also, I'm assuming that if you're like most people, your power will continue to increase.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so basically you want him to convert to a race only tranny?
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zboog929 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I FORGOT TO MENTION GSR TYPE R CAMS </TD></TR></TABLE>

based on this quote i wouldnt take his claimed 500 hp seriously...

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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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your not gonna break a honda trans (if its in good condition to begin with) i know people with 300-500+ whp hondas and their trans dont break.... whipfactory uses factory trannys on all their cars cause their reliable.. the ek they got has a type r and nothings broken.. their old eg (my hatch) had a stock trans (3rd stg of boost at 650whp) and it never broke.. dont worry about your trans worry about your motor mounts... grab a set of avid either street/strip or race mounts (i went with race and im gonna be at 550+ on my 3rd stg of boost) you wont break those
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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He could probably get away with polyurethane mount inserts for the cheap.
Also, look into carbon coated syncros.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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500 hp on a stock tranny doesnt sound like a good ending to me... i could be wrong tho..
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kseriesFTW &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">500 hp on a stock tranny doesnt sound like a good ending to me... i could be wrong tho..</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah .. you are
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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hasport mounts arent the best ride but your not going to be just driving a 500hp car around as a daily driver are you?
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