rhd front clip! why ppl just dont clip there car at same spot and mount?
why ppl just dont clip there car an mount there rhd clip....
IM thinking about buyin a eg6 rhd clip with b16a... cutin my car in two mounting front end!!
Modified by gulftiresinc at 6:49 PM 9/16/2007
IM thinking about buyin a eg6 rhd clip with b16a... cutin my car in two mounting front end!!
Modified by gulftiresinc at 6:49 PM 9/16/2007
its sounds like he wants to cut apart his car in the same spot the the RHD clip that he got was cut...weather it be halfway across the door...he wants to cut his car in half and weld the clip directly on.
it think your under-estimating the task at hand my friend.
it think your under-estimating the task at hand my friend.
a friend did that to his car. it was the easiest way to do it. the body shop cut the car at the spot welds on the floor of the car and cut the door post. welded it back together. the doors and window fit back perfectly and the car aligned perfectly. but i wouldnt let just any body shop do this i have seen some hack jobs that were unsafe. the way this guy did it made it stroger than it was before. and you cant even tell the car was ever cut. the car has AC power steering and everything just like the jdm car. it really looks like a real jdm teg just has US vin numbers in the door jam
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20turbojason »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a friend did that to his car. it was the easiest way to do it. the body shop cut the car at the spot welds on the floor of the car and cut the door post. welded it back together. the doors and window fit back perfectly and the car aligned perfectly. but i wouldnt let just any body shop do this i have seen some hack jobs that were unsafe. the way this guy did it made it stroger than it was before. and you cant even tell the car was ever cut. the car has AC power steering and everything just like the jdm car. it really looks like a real jdm teg just has US vin numbers in the door jam</TD></TR></TABLE>
any pics!
any pics!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20turbojason »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the way this guy did it made it stroger than it was before. </TD></TR></TABLE>This isnt a totally true statement....Since from te factory the post are 1 piece with the quarters..anytime you cut something that thin and reweld it it isnt as strong.
drilling the spot welds out and lapping the panels helps make it as strong as before but not stronger
drilling the spot welds out and lapping the panels helps make it as strong as before but not stronger
I don't think anyone should suggest or give ideas about how this kid can go about cutting his car in half.
DON'T DO THAT, YOU WILL MOST LIKELY FAIL AT FABRICATION AND YOUR CAR WILL KILL YOU OR OTHERS
DON'T DO THAT, YOU WILL MOST LIKELY FAIL AT FABRICATION AND YOUR CAR WILL KILL YOU OR OTHERS
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boner_Ben »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you should give it a try and report back here
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QFT! We'll get to observe evolution at its finest! I'm with you Ben!
</TD></TR></TABLE>QFT! We'll get to observe evolution at its finest! I'm with you Ben!
Ya exactly. If you don't see how drilling out the spot welds and welding in the firewall would be stronger than cutting the car in half and rewelding it, you should not even be thinking about doing this conversion.
i seen this done a few times... just make sure you don't get t-bone, cause your car might just split in half.... many people did this b4, i think people just dont do it this way no more cause its just not a safe way to do it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pandahatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do it and watch your car fold in half, you lose a TON of structural integrity, cut out the firewall and do it right...</TD></TR></TABLE>
this isnt true. the car that by friend did teh spot welds on the floor were drilled out. if what you are saying is true then the car would have dont this from the factory. i am sure you have never seen this done before and you have nothing to base your statment on. the car that my friend built is still driving fine. the work was done by a skilled body tech that has been in the buisness for 20+ years. if you have seen a car fold in half it was on the internet where you only see pics and no reasons of why the car was like it was. when my friends car was welded back it was instead of just being sport welded back it was stiched welded so it is stronger then stock. this car is not going to break or even come apart in the area it was worked on if it ends up being involded in a accident. if any of you have ever seen a car that has been worked on in a good body shop you would have seen cars are repaired. cars these days are built on spot welds and small pieces of 20 guage sheet metal. i am only saying if it is done right by a skilled body tech then it will be ok. i dont think it is something for a DIYer or a cheap short cut body tech.
this isnt true. the car that by friend did teh spot welds on the floor were drilled out. if what you are saying is true then the car would have dont this from the factory. i am sure you have never seen this done before and you have nothing to base your statment on. the car that my friend built is still driving fine. the work was done by a skilled body tech that has been in the buisness for 20+ years. if you have seen a car fold in half it was on the internet where you only see pics and no reasons of why the car was like it was. when my friends car was welded back it was instead of just being sport welded back it was stiched welded so it is stronger then stock. this car is not going to break or even come apart in the area it was worked on if it ends up being involded in a accident. if any of you have ever seen a car that has been worked on in a good body shop you would have seen cars are repaired. cars these days are built on spot welds and small pieces of 20 guage sheet metal. i am only saying if it is done right by a skilled body tech then it will be ok. i dont think it is something for a DIYer or a cheap short cut body tech.
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your under-estimating the task at hand my friend.
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your under-estimating the task at hand my friend.
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This is actually the way alot of body shops used to repair cars. They will cut off the front of a damaged car and leave a little extra metal, flange the panels, and weld part of a different car to it by lapping panels and spot/stitch welding. For someone who has not been trained and has never done a complex repair like this, it is better to just cut out the firewall, in the end it will save time. If you have a rack that will allow you to align the two halves as dimensioned in the factory manual, this is a perfectly valid technique.
With the current cost of labor and overhead this kind of thing is not done very often anymore, but it is a valid technique. Like anything though, you'll have to do it right, or you'll end up doing it (at least) twice.
With the current cost of labor and overhead this kind of thing is not done very often anymore, but it is a valid technique. Like anything though, you'll have to do it right, or you'll end up doing it (at least) twice.
Thank you Niles. the body tech that did my friends car said it would be faster doing the way he did it cause you wouldnt have to take everything off the firewall. it all got to stay during the swap. the only thing that was taken out was the dash and the motor. i will try and get pics
it's the question of sectioning......as body shops refer to it....some swear by it and claim it can be accomplished to repair totaled cars, others swear against it and say the car will never be the same.......on going debate in the body shop world.
If you know what you are doing it can be done.. It is done all the time in autobody.. Cars that are badly wrecked are clipped, whether it be front or rear. You need to know what you are doing though to have it come out right.
pm user got nos he did it to a 92 si I believe and it came out perfect but he took his time and did it right..
pm user got nos he did it to a 92 si I believe and it came out perfect but he took his time and did it right..
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