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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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I got 2 air boxes and the one w/ the stock filter obviously comes out and the intake connects, but there is another box further down that has nothing in it and the stock pipe rests on. What i want 2 know is if that second box has 2 come out since there is nothing in there? I have a 99 Civic DX.

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JaeEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got 2 air boxes and the one w/ the stock filter obviously comes out and the intake connects, but there is another box further down that has nothing in it and the stock pipe rests on. What i want 2 know is if that second box has 2 come out since there is nothing in there? I have a 99 Civic DX.

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the second box is called the resonater, if your installing a short ram intake, its not needed to take the resonater out. The only time the resonater has to be removed is when you install a cold air intake.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JaeEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got 2 air boxes and the one w/ the stock filter obviously comes out and the intake connects, but there is another box further down that has nothing in it and the stock pipe rests on. What i want 2 know is if that second box has 2 come out since there is nothing in there? I have a 99 Civic DX.

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I'd take it out. It doesn't serve a purpos after the intake has been removed for an aftermarket intake. It is the stock resonator, which will make your engine bay look that much nicer when removed.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Yes. remove and save yourself a few ounces.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b 1 6 a 2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'd take it out. It doesn't serve a purpos after the intake has been removed for an aftermarket intake. It is the stock resonator, which will make your engine bay look that much nicer when removed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you'll have to take off your front bumper to remove the resonater.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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well if i gotta take off the front bumper than i wont bother i just wanted 2 make sure it wouldnt f up air flow.

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JaeEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if i gotta take off the front bumper than i wont bother i just wanted 2 make sure it wouldnt f up air flow.

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I didn't have to take out my bumper for my removal. I took out the tire, using the stock jack (at that time), and unbolted part of the wheel well. The resonator can be taken out in pieces, and the part where you pull it out will come out, just with a bit of twisting and rocking out of the lower wheel well.

This method works, and it's better than removing the bumper.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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but its not gonna mess the air flow weather i take it out/not thats all that really matters to me.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 06:04 AM
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well my boy helped me out and now we c that we have 2 take out the resonator box so it would fit properly, but now i got other issues:

The hood wont close b/c the curve would b sticking up, and there is also no place 2 put in the sensor on the new intake.

If any1 has a short ram on their DX than post pics of it so i can c how its supposed to look.

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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are you sure you got the right intake? pics?
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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it sounds like u have the wrong intake for your car....
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you'll have to take off your front bumper to remove the resonater. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No you don't, you can unbolt it form the bottom.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Why are all you people so against taking off your front bumper?

It takes 5 minutes.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a2dadamm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it sounds like u have the wrong intake for your car....</TD></TR></TABLE>

He doesn't, all the OBD-II should have an IAT port on them, he must have an intake from a '92-'95...
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why are all you people so against taking off your front bumper?

It takes 5 minutes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not against it but it's not necessary.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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I'm not against it but it's not necessary.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd rather spend the 5 minutes taking off my bumper than have to:

Jack the car up
Put it on a jack stand
Take my wheel off
Bend my arms around unbolting it from the wheel well
Slam it around trying to yank it out from behind the bumper

All that would take WAY longer than it takes me to take my bumper off, and may damage things, albeit cosmetically, but I'm ****.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'd rather spend the 5 minutes taking off my bumper than have to:

Jack the car up
Put it on a jack stand
Take my wheel off
Bend my arms around unbolting it from the wheel well
Slam it around trying to yank it out from behind the bumper

All that would take WAY longer than it takes me to take my bumper off, and may damage things, albeit cosmetically, but I'm ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh, yeah, you're right, it's different if your car is slammed, though usually you can just slide under it enough to get what you need to get. None of the bolts need to go back in.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Its the right one it said for 96-00 civic dx/cx/lx ill post up pics of it, but does any1 have pics of their short ram so i can c how it looks.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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That picture's small and is crappy - that appears to be the nipple for the valve cover hose - but there should be a hole some place on it (not on a nipple, just a hole, like somebody took a drill bit to the thing) where the IAT will plug into.


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PS: I can tell you right now that's not the right intake.

The LX has a Y7 motor in it, in the Y7 throttle body it sticks STRAIGHT up in the air, which means the the intake arm has to have a good ~100-120º turn-around bend on it. That intake is made for a side throttle body, which is why it has the typical ~40º bend or so.



notice how it comes straight up?


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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Ya it was quick pic there is another nipple on the other side so thats where i figured it would go.

Now how about the fitting under the hood b/c the setup is different from the ex. Whenever i tried lookin for pics it would only show an ex.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JaeEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya it was quick pic there is another nipple on the other side so thats where i figured it would go.

Now how about the fitting under the hood b/c the setup is different from the ex. Whenever i tried lookin for pics it would only show an ex.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That won't fit under the hood, that's what I've been trying to tell you.

It's either for a '92-'95 any trim civic, or if it's '96-'00 it's an EX, because the CX, DX, and LX all had Y7's where the throttle body pointed straight up - your air intake won't make the turn to fit under the hood - you need an intercooler 90º bend coupler or something. That intake's barely pushing a 90º bend.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Yea i c now guess ill have 2 sell it then any1 kno some1 that wants an intake for $30.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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You can also purchase a D16Y8 intake manifold and put that on your car. Your intake would work with that manifold and you might see a bit better throttle response.

Besides the manifold, you will have to get some new hoses and a new rotor and spring for your throttle body.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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cant you just use the stock box that sits on the trottle body and then use the arm as any other intake?
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