Quick roll cage question for you guys/girls?????????

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Default Quick roll cage question for you guys/girls?????????

Hey somebody told me awhile back that if you have a roll bar or cage in your car (i have a 90 civic dx) that it is then illegal to carry anybody in the backseat. Is this true or is the guy full of it? I would think that as long as i just had say an 6 point with a loop, two rear supports, and two door bars it wouldnt be much of an issue but i wanted to you guys first. Has anybody ran into this issue or no?

Thanks for the help guys it is much appreciated and the reason i ask is because i got t-boned in my 88 crx and it pushed the door in past the b-pillar which i dont want to happen again if i can help it so in my hatch i am lookint to reinforce a little.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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I'm not sure if it's illegal or not but look at it this way; you are putting metal bars in your backseat where your passengers are going to ride. They're going to have regular seatbelts on meaning they're not secured in place. It just doesn't sound safe to me.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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well what i figured was i would make the rear bar that you would attach harnesses to removable so that i could take it out when the passengers are in there. Other than that i dont think it would too bad because the bars would be up against the bodyline and i would wrap them in foam or something.

Anybody else care to speculate.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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it is illegal
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Would be a bitch to get people in your back seats anyway
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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many factory vehicals have rear roll bars and its fine, Jeeps, pathfinders ect ect , just put foam any where some one may bump there head. I cant see it being a issue unless you have it like a jungle gym in the back or somthing. In my state of PA i have never seen a car fail inspection for roll bars yet.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted91crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">many factory vehicals have rear roll bars and its fine, Jeeps, pathfinders ect ect , just put foam any where some one may bump there head. I cant see it being a issue unless you have it like a jungle gym in the back or somthing. In my state of PA i have never seen a car fail inspection for roll bars yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>
its totally different...if you look at a jeep wrangler the bars are so far away from where the occupants heads would be....not to mention those vehicles were engineered from the factory to have them...i guarantee you will not find one modern 4-5 seat passenger car with a roll bar....
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondacivic90zc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well what i figured was i would make the rear bar that you would attach harnesses to removable so that i could take it out when the passengers are in there. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The bar needs to be welded in, sorry but your putting your safety over people sitting in your back seat, thats not smart. If its a daily car with a backseat and your going to have more then 1 passenger, you don't need a roll cage.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stefndogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
its totally different...if you look at a jeep wrangler the bars are so far away from where the occupants heads would be....not to mention those vehicles were engineered from the factory to have them...i guarantee you will not find one modern 4-5 seat passenger car with a roll bar....</TD></TR></TABLE>
While true we dont find many modern cars with bars in them, the bars with foam on them would be alot "safer" then having your passenger smash his/her head off the hard window pillar or other areas. and in the case of a roll over the bar would keep the roof from crushing down, alot of convertables with rear seats do come with a sort of factory roll bar, and the factory roll bar in my nissan pathfinder is right where a person in the rear seat could smack there head in a side collision, however like i tried to state above even if the bar wasnt there the persons head would still hit somthing regardless.In PA it is not against the law to have roll bars installed, i cant see a properly installed roll bar with foam padding being any thing but safer for a cars occupants in a accident. But then again i am used to having roll bars in every thing i have grown up around. I remember when i was a kid crawling into my dads street strip 57 chevy with full cage, and we had dune buggys on the farm with homemade roll bars and when i was 16 I used to pick up my buddys in a 70 camaro that had a full cage and they would have to crawl in like monkeys. so i guess I may be partial to them since they have always represented a way of making a vehical safe to me.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted91crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
While true we dont find many modern cars with bars in them, the bars with foam on them would be alot "safer" then having your passenger smash his/her head off the hard window pillar or other areas. and in the case of a roll over the bar would keep the roof from crushing down, alot of convertables with rear seats do come with a sort of factory roll bar, and the factory roll bar in my nissan pathfinder is right where a person in the rear seat could smack there head in a side collision, however like i tried to state above even if the bar wasnt there the persons head would still hit somthing regardless.In PA it is not against the law to have roll bars installed, i cant see a properly installed roll bar with foam padding being any thing but safer for a cars occupants in a accident. But then again i am used to having roll bars in every thing i have grown up around. I remember when i was a kid crawling into my dads street strip 57 chevy with full cage, and we had dune buggys on the farm with homemade roll bars and when i was 16 I used to pick up my buddys in a 70 camaro that had a full cage and they would have to crawl in like monkeys. so i guess I may be partial to them since they have always represented a way of making a vehical safe to me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, any car with a roll bar should not have multiply passengers in it. Even with foam on the bars, your still going to take a pretty good hit to the head, and the roll bar will have no give at all. The padding is more so there to protect a driver, even with a helmet on.

Does it matter really if its against the law or not ? Look at the safety issues, unless all the passengers have 4, 0r 5 point harness on, there going to move in the event of an accident and will smash right into the bar.

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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roll cage + people in the back + short stop = big dentist or reconstructive surgeon bills
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