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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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I've got a 97 civic ex with the factory D16Y8, 4-2-1 header, intake, exhaust, OBD1 converted P-28 with boomslang harness, Phearable.net basemap, etc....
With such a basic setup i'm getting HORRIBLE gas mileage, By horrible i mean 200-220 miles per tank! Anyone have any idea what could possibly cause this??? Any help would greatly be appeciated.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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you're probably running rich, do you beat the crap out of your motor a lot?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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chang eyour o2 sensor?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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No i don't beat on my motor ever. It's just a d-series so no need to! I did the obd1 conversion because my secondary o2 sensor went out and it was cheaper to convert than to buy a new secondary o2. If my first o2 sensor was malfunctioning wouldn't i throw a CEL or some sort of code?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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im not sure if it would throw a code. i just changed mine cuz its never been changed. is there a way to check 02 sensors to see if they work?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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you need to get it tuned. a basemap is just someone's best guess of what to set your maps at.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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I had the same problem in my 97 civic lx sedan
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Whens the last time you did a full tune up?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Run a STOCK P28 for a few tanks and see if the results are the same.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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I've done a full tune up recently with plugs, wire, rotor, cap, fuel filter, motor flush, etc..... anyone know if it's possible to test o2 sensors????
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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Yes it is.

To do it the right way you need a scope to watch the switching voltage (Between about 100 milli volts to about 900 milli volts) It should be switching back and forth farely quickely. The exact number of switches per second escapes my mind right now.

You could do it with a regular multi meter, but they can't read fast enough to catch the switching voltage, it will just give you a average voltage number.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Thanks for the help, i'll try that asap!!!!
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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You can also ohm the sensor to see if its open. this works good the heater side if your O2 has one.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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just cut the J1 jumper on your ecu and itll become a stock p28. get it solder back if u want it chipped again. your probably getting shitty gas mileage b/c of your chipped ecu.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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if u dont beat on it then why would u even bother chipping it. the chip is whats givving u shitty mileage.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Return your car to stock if you want good gas mileage......

I couldn't imagine having a 16 sec. car that gets 20-22mpg!!!

My 16 *maybe 17!* second car (93 DX) gets 45mpg!!
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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I don't beat on it, i got it chipped because i had future plans for a sohc turbo setup so i went ahead and had the ecu chipped and socketed but for an all motor basemap tune for what i have now. A pretty common thing actually. Yeah it does suck having a slow car getting this shi%#y of gas mileage. Going to do a compression test tomorrow as precaution.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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Pretty much what everone has already said. Plug your obd2 EX ecu back in and gas mileage should be back to normal.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Compresstion test came back perfect 210 all the way across! And I wont plug my OBD2 ecu back in because the entire reason i did the OBD1 conversion to begin with was because my secondary O2 sensor went out and it was cheaper to do a OBD2 to OBD1 conversion to disable it rather than buy a new one!
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