Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

LOOSE CALIPER HELP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:06 PM
  #1  
tobe1424's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: miami, florida, usa
Default LOOSE CALIPER HELP

i recently change the pads in the front brakes on my 96 ek hatch and updated to brembo slotted rotors...

anyways only my drivers side front brake caliper seems a bit loose and makes a clanking noise when i brake sometimes but its really getting to me.

i dunno what it is.. the bolts on the caliper bracket are tight. the only thing is that i didnt bleed the brakes... but i was told my alot of ppl that u dont have to bleed the brakes unless the pedal feels weird or low... and it made sense because the car brakes awesome but only that caliper seems a bit loose...

NEED HELP HERE ON SMALL DILEMA HT . THANKS
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:12 PM
  #2  
EG8R's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,466
Likes: 0
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

Is the bolt for the caliper itself missing?
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:14 PM
  #3  
nighttrain33's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,419
Likes: 1
From: running nines, but on two wheels
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

As far as your problem, I don't know, unless there is a problem with your slider pin. But for a rotor/pad change, there is no need to bleed the system.

-Shane
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:31 PM
  #4  
tobe1424's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: miami, florida, usa
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (nighttrain33)

yea that bolt is there...


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nighttrain33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as your problem, I don't know, unless there is a problem with your slider pin. But for a rotor/pad change, there is no need to bleed the system.

-Shane</TD></TR></TABLE>

is that the pin that has like a boot covering it? if so how can that be the problem. thanks
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:45 PM
  #5  
nighttrain33's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,419
Likes: 1
From: running nines, but on two wheels
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tobe1424 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that the pin that has like a boot covering it? if so how can that be the problem. thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not saying that is THE problem, but if somehow the grease in the boot dissapates, the slider pin could stick and cause a braking problem.

The only other thing that I could think of is maybe your caliper is not working correctly.

-Shane
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:51 PM
  #6  
tobe1424's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: miami, florida, usa
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (nighttrain33)

well iill take that into consideration...but if it is the grease thats gone ill try to grease it up.... if not.... they i guess ill be on the way to the junk yard to find a caliper
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:56 PM
  #7  
nighttrain33's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,419
Likes: 1
From: running nines, but on two wheels
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tobe1424 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well iill take that into consideration...but if it is the grease thats gone ill try to grease it up.... if not.... they i guess ill be on the way to the junk yard to find a caliper </TD></TR></TABLE>

I would wait on going to find a new caliper yet. When the caliper on my Civic was seized, it was dragging on the rotor, and you'd know. When the nut on the caliper bracket of my Sierra backed out, I couldn't go anywhere. I would think if it had to do with the caliper, you wouldn't be going anywhere fast. I would check the slider pin as well as any other associated nuts first.

-Shane
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:20 AM
  #8  
tobe1424's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: miami, florida, usa
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (nighttrain33)

il check for those...i mean my car brakes good and there is not damage on the rotor....so ill try and lube the pin i guess.... can i just use WD 40 or do i use like wheel bearing grease or something...i never new that was lube in there
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:37 AM
  #9  
instructor74's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,309
Likes: 0
From: State College, Pa, US
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

Did you replace the anti rattle clips when you changed the pads out? these keep the pads tight in the caliper if they are missing or worn out the pad will move around in the caliper and make a clanking noise when hitting the brakes
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 01:18 PM
  #10  
tobe1424's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: miami, florida, usa
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (instructor74)

ttt

well im pretty sure they r in there but I cant tell u if they r worn out or not... but even if they arent there or worn out I dont understandhow it would make the entire caliper move a bit
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 01:23 PM
  #11  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tobe1424 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ttt

well im pretty sure they r in there but I cant tell u if they r worn out or not... but even if they arent there or worn out I dont understandhow it would make the entire caliper move a bit </TD></TR></TABLE>

you can physically move the caliper with your hand?
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 01:25 PM
  #12  
gsxr1k05's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 774
Likes: 0
From: colorado springs, co, usa
Default

unless you can see it in action, you wont understand how it can happen. as for the bleeding, you only need to bleed brakes when you introduce air into the lines. if you dont losen the lines to the calipers you dont need to bleed. but try what nighttrain suggested first and go from there. or put the car on jack stands and act like your driving. try to break and have a friend look at it too see what the calipers are doing (obviously do this with the wheel off)
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 03:28 PM
  #13  
tobe1424's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: miami, florida, usa
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (philosofy1)

yesI can move it but it only has like a couple of millimeters of play its nothing crazy. it usually only does the clank noise when I backup and brake or when I turn and brake... by the looks of it, it doesnt look like the caliper is applying much pressure on the pads while the car is still... in other words I would be able to stick something really thin like a feeler gauge between caliper and pads...

I dunno if that helps out the scenario
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 05:10 PM
  #14  
cinci27's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

The pads should be riding on the rotors at all times. My guess is you either have a caliper failure or air in the system that isn't letting that caliper clamp on the pads.

My suggestion is to:
1. Verify you correctly torqued the caliper bracket to the hub
2. Bleed your system
3. Jack the front end up, put in neutral, and have someone press the pedal while you try to turn that side. If it's still not clamping, my guess is a bad caliper...maybe caused when you pushed the cylinder back into the housing.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:03 PM
  #15  
tobe1424's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: miami, florida, usa
Default Re: (gsxr1k05)

ttt...

idont know if this helps...but i just touched the caliper and it really only moves a bit front and back not much side to side.... man this is driving me nuts
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:07 PM
  #16  
ke98248's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,683
Likes: 0
From: Snohomish County, WA
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:46 PM
  #17  
nighttrain33's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,419
Likes: 1
From: running nines, but on two wheels
Default Re: (tobe1424)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tobe1424 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ttt...

idont know if this helps...but i just touched the caliper and it really only moves a bit front and back not much side to side.... man this is driving me nuts</TD></TR></TABLE>

If it's moving at all, there must be something loose. Your caliper should not move.

-Shane
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 10:39 PM
  #18  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: (tobe1424)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tobe1424 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ttt...

idont know if this helps...but i just touched the caliper and it really only moves a bit front and back not much side to side.... man this is driving me nuts</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you 100% sure that you bolted it down tight enough? i would look into that, like mentioned earlier, the caliper should not be moving at all.
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:33 PM
  #19  
tobe1424's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: miami, florida, usa
Default Re: (philosofy1)

yup pretty sure... im thinking its that slider pin...but then I dunno how that works
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:56 PM
  #20  
cinci27's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Default Re: LOOSE CALIPER HELP (tobe1424)

It probably can move if the caliper isn't engaged onto the pads. You really need to determine if there's any brake power on that side. Slider pins float in the boreholes.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Integra4lyfe069
Acura Integra
5
Mar 10, 2011 08:51 AM
wxy117
Honda Prelude
7
Apr 25, 2008 06:22 PM
aries331
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
3
Oct 24, 2007 04:48 PM
bigandy90
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Oct 14, 2007 08:04 PM
ACURACY_VTEC
Acura Integra
5
Aug 30, 2002 09:04 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:03 AM.