Figured I'd share my long term "Go-Cart" plans...

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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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For as long as I have been into turbo's, I have wanted to build a turbocharged offroad go-cart. I didn't want to build just some un-suspended wagon with a motor, so I've been researching for someone out there that has already built somewhat of what I was thinking. I didn't want something as large as a sandrail, but also didn't want something uncomfortably small.

Then I came upon the company called Edge go-carts located in Australia. Not only have they built something that was roughly what I was looking for, it was EXACTLY what I was looking for. They sell plans for all of thier go-carts that allow the customer to build every part themselves if they have the means/wanted too. However, they also sell individual parts, and complete carts for everyone in between. Considering I work at a metal fab shop, I have the perfect means to build this chassis for just the cost of material.

What's so different about their carts may you ask? take a look:

- Street bike motor (600-1300cc!)
- Insane independant suspension
- Small enough to fit on a simple cargo trailer, and not take up an entire garage.
- If built almost entirely by myself, it's really not all that expensive.
- Pretty much a Baja buggy yet at a fraction of the cost.

So what are my plans exactly?...

I will be building the "Barracuda" chassis with the help of their plans, but purchase the rear CV type suspension from Edge directly due to the complexity of the parts. I will be using an 03 CBR600 motor and tranny that my buddy has parted out of a trashed frame. I would love to utilize a larger 1000cc motor, but I'd also like to keep the weight down as much as I can. I will be utilizing almost all of the factory electrical system off the bike except for the ECU. I havn't decided which ECU yet, but most likely it'll be a motec or fast. As for the turbo setup, I'll use a GT28R along with a small air-air IC system. I think the turbo will really make up for torque less 600, and make the cart insanely fast! As far as power goals, I think 200whp would be reliable and fast as hell in a 1000lb chassis.

On with the pics (from the website)...











For more info/pics...
http://www.edge.au.com/Barracuda.htm

I'm very excited to start this project, eventhough I know it probubly won't be completed for at least 4 years. It will be a test of my fabrication skills, and should provide all new challenges that make building custom vehicles fun.

Enjoi,
Bryson


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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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now that looks like fun... especially the last pic.

how much is it to just buy the plans?
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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oh my god thats the most fun looking thing ive seen in forever. is this going to be the build up thread?
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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i dunno looks sick but the components look pretty expensive to me. . . .

but good luck
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Check this out !
http://www.grabercars.com/

And

http://locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1030
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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it looks cool and everything ,but doesn't look comfortble at all hah ,thatr one pic that dudes knees are in his throat lol

bet it would be a ball though
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weiRtech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now that looks like fun... especially the last pic.

how much is it to just buy the plans?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Around $80 bucks. Since they utilize solidworks for the designs, I'm going to see if they can just email me the entire files. I could then print whatever drawings and dimensions I would need. I don't know if that will fly, but I might as well ask.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Casey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh my god thats the most fun looking thing ive seen in forever. is this going to be the build up thread? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I doubt it. It's going to be a while before I begin this. I'm still in the initial planning stages right now. After all I need to finish up my CRX first

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dunno looks sick but the components look pretty expensive to me. . . .

but good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

In terms of a go-cart builds, this is definetly going to be priced on the high end thats for sure. But overall, I think I can build the complete buggy for less than $9,000. The main expense would be the rear suspension assembily which comes out to be about $3,400 plus shipping, and the coilover shocks.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phatboycrxhf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks cool and everything ,but doesn't look comfortble at all hah ,thatr one pic that dudes knees are in his throat lol

bet it would be a ball though </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you look at the other pic, he has his legs almost completely stretched out. They also say it'll fit someone up to 6'7" (I'm 6'2") with no problems. After all, the best thing about building it myself is that I can position everything where I want it.


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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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awesome project, but doesnt a gt28r still seem a bit too big for a 600? i dont know just thinking
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the_unknown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">awesome project, but doesnt a gt28r still seem a bit too big for a 600? i dont know just thinking</TD></TR></TABLE>

It very well might be. I just don't want the turbo to kill the topend flow of the motor. I might try the 28 and see how it performs, and if it's a little too laggy down grade to the 25.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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That looks awesome!!! Damn.. I want one.

-Jason
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostwerks.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It very well might be. I just don't want the turbo to kill the topend flow of the motor. I might try the 28 and see how it performs, and if it's a little too laggy down grade to the 25. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget how high a CBR600 engine revs!
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Casey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh my god thats the most fun looking thing ive seen in forever. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was just thinking the same thing, lets build one
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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SAE baja on steriods?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k24em2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Don't forget how high a CBR600 engine revs! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha exactly. According to the tach the motor redlines at 13,000.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RTErnie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SAE baja on steriods?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bingo! Unfortunetly I switched my MET major before we started up on the SAE project buggy. Maybe I'll go back to finish up that degree just to show off my work.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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I've always had the desire to do this type of project as well. I wanted something that could do quad trails, but give me a buggy layout. This is a bit wide for that, and the cost is DEFINITELY beyond what I was after.

Good luck with that though...it'll end up fun.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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looks kick ***.....i want one.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Mini-Baja rocks. Here's a link to my school's site: http://www.engr.ucr.edu/~minibaja/05race.htm

The basic cage layout is specified by SAE. If you download the rules from their website, it basically tells you how to make the entire cage. Ours had upper and lower a-arms front and rear the first year and had a trailing arm rear suspension the next year. All it takes is a bunch of steel tubing, a tube bender, tube notcher and a good welder. (We did ours with a combination of a cheap Lincoln MIG machine (sometimes even fluxcore), a Miller Synchrowave 250 and a harbor freight TIG machine at the track and stuff. Oh, a plasma cutter really makes life easy on this stuff, too.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Nice! What powerplant you guys go with? That's a nice XJ there too

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've always had the desire to do this type of project as well. I wanted something that could do quad trails, but give me a buggy layout. This is a bit wide for that, and the cost is DEFINITELY beyond what I was after.

Good luck with that though...it'll end up fun.</TD></TR></TABLE>

For sure man! I plan to take the buggy on 4 wheeling trips, to our sand dunes in southern Colorado, and up to the mountains. I live pretty much on the edge of the rocky mountains, and also have family up in Marble Colorado which has TONs of trails to explore. This isn't something that I plan on building and never use.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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The barracuda look completely nuts.
Would be a blast, but around here there would be no place to play with it
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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i like the asthetics of this one a little better, not as many sharp points.



mini rails look sooo fun though! and you can credit the honda odyssey for most of the early innovation in that area too haha
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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get with jeremy he may be able to hook you up with a motec deal.

i have been looking for a salvage titled smartcar to put a gxsr motor in,
cool project!

dibs on a ride
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Hell yeah dude, that would be a cool as hell project! I've always wanted to build a sandrail!!! You should also consider the autronic sm4 I can help ya out when you're ready!
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kelly. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
get with jeremy he may be able to hook you up with a motec deal.

i have been looking for a salvage titled smartcar to put a gxsr motor in,
cool project!

dibs on a ride </TD></TR></TABLE>

Definetly man!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by servion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hell yeah dude, that would be a cool as hell project! I've always wanted to build a sandrail!!! You should also consider the autronic sm4 I can help ya out when you're ready!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was hoping you would! haha I'll go with whatever standalone you reccomend.

BTW, is everything working out ok on your wifes car?

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Well, we've been jumping through hoops trying to get a good head ( long story involving wrong cam caps), but I got a new head and it iwll go on after I get back from tuning in Vegas this weekend Then turbo!!
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