i searched but i couldnt find anything...i just want to know if there are any headers out there that are made for b16 in ef's... main reason because i really dont want to bang my crossmember or replace it... i would also like to know if there are alot of clearance issues.
thanks

 

Well a B16 only has a "HEADER" it doesn't have "headers" as you have stated.

If you want a header from an aftermarket company you will have to adjust/massage your crossmember. There is no way around it unless you get one that runs about $800 which are VERY nice.

 

Yo toad, not to hate but there are headers that fit w/o having to bang the crossmember but they are usually the 4-2-1 design. My swap came with a JDM "FGK" brand header that is a 2 piece 4-2-1 design and it does not come close to the crossmember, now the 4-1 headers are another story. You pretty much have to bang out your Xmember to make one of these fit. So yeah pretty much all 4-2-1 headers I have seen will fit w/o worry

 

Hasport makes a header made for a CRX with a B-series. It even has the 2 o2 sensor bungs on it.

 

You could also use Hasports, it's great it makes no power or torque

Till about 3 weeks ago, I had A/C and a header in mine, at one point even a stock X member... talk about smashing and a tight fit.

Very few headers as toad said will fit as it never came to our market stock, so fitmint wasn't/isn't something alot of the companies needed to worry about. Also any long tube setup, is going to be a pain to fit in any chassis even more so in an 4th gen.

A good header is well worth ripping that junky stock X member out for. The better X member is just a great mod. It ups the cost of doing a header but if i had to choose the X member helps more if you are running enough torque to get some wheel spin. On a stock b16 or something, you'll need more power first.

 

I have the basic DC sport header on mine.

No probs....

 

how can i get a hold of the JDM "FGK"? and do you like it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecSyndrome &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yo toad, not to hate but there are headers that fit w/o having to bang the crossmember but they are usually the 4-2-1 design. My swap came with a JDM "FGK" brand header that is a 2 piece 4-2-1 design and it does not come close to the crossmember, now the 4-1 headers are another story. You pretty much have to bang out your Xmember to make one of these fit. So yeah pretty much all 4-2-1 headers I have seen will fit w/o worry </TD></TR></TABLE>

No issues brotha....I was thinking 4-1. Too much time at you know where, makes you think there is no other kind. God bless race tracks.

Jay you need to call me...I need some $$ so we can keep your car legal with the state of NC.

 

for a b-16 a 4-2-1 will be the better option, cause you need to still have some low end. i got the comptech 4-2-1 header for my b-16 for a type R. i was told to do so so if i decided to go lsvtec later on the header will clear and i will have no issues with it. oh and yeah this has good crossmember clearance and ground clearace. just as long as you not trying to make your civic look like a low rider.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Old Renegade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for a b-16 a 4-2-1 will be the better option, cause you need to still have some low end. i got the comptech 4-2-1 header for my b-16 for a type R. i was told to do so so if i decided to go lsvtec later on the header will clear and i will have no issues with it. oh and yeah this has good crossmember clearance and ground clearace. just as long as you not trying to make your civic look like a low rider.</TD></TR></TABLE> Sorry, this isn't really true.

On a basic and near equal setup header the 4-2-1 vs 4-1 statment holds some truth but a good 4-1 will out do a 4-2-1 or vice virsa.

It's all in how well the header is setup for your motor. My 4-1 makes gobs more power then the old 4-2-1 I had.

I also made a huge step in quailty of the header.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rev Red &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how can i get a hold of the JDM "FGK"? and do you like it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know Hmotorsonline.com has them from time to time along with other misc importers of these motors. I will be getting rid of mine in a few weeks since I am going 4-1. The only problem is the bottom pipe is bent upwards a little at the cat due to a big damn rock in the road. It could be fixed though by a muffler shop.


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No issues brotha....I was thinking 4-1. Too much time at you know where, makes you think there is no other kind. God bless race tracks.

Jay you need to call me...I need some $$ so we can keep your car legal with the state of NC. </TD></TR></TABLE>

DOHHH!!! yep as usual I be forgetisten..............thanks for the reminder "the man". lol

 

thanks for the help

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Maxidermist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Sorry, this isn't really true.

On a basic and near equal setup header the 4-2-1 vs 4-1 statment holds some truth but a good 4-1 will out do a 4-2-1 or vice virsa.

It's all in how well the header is setup for your motor. My 4-1 makes gobs more power then the old 4-2-1 I had.

I also made a huge step in quailty of the header. </TD></TR></TABLE>


not talking about power over all i meant low end power. so you sayin that a 4-1 will make more low end power than a 4-2-1?

 

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not talking about power over all i meant low end power. so you sayin that a 4-1 will make more low end power than a 4-2-1?</TD></TR></TABLE> Yes, a good setup can scavange low end just as weel if not better.

It's all about how the header is made and what for. It's really about how the header is made not what style it is.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Maxidermist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Yes, a good setup can scavange low end just as weel if not better.

It's all about how the header is made and what for. It's really about how the header is made not what style it is.

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well if you say so but thought that a 4-2-1 will make more low end power than a 4-1. my comptech made power through out my whole rpm range, but upgradded to a better header (not installed yet) that has a 2.5" collector to get some more wheel horsepower. oh, the comptech has a 2.25" collector. comptech is still a good *** header!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Old Renegade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well if you say so but thought that o 4-2-1 will make more low end power than a 4-1. my comptech made power through out my whole rpm range, but upgradded to a better header (not installed) that has a 2.5" collector to get some more wheel horsepower. oh, the comptech has a 2.25" collector. comptech is still a good *** header!!! </TD></TR></TABLE> Most headers are just ehhh.

On an equal lever 4-2-1 normally will do more power low end. comptech makes a good header but the price is high. What header are you using now?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Maxidermist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Most headers are just ehhh.

On an equal lever 4-2-1 normally will do more power low end. comptech makes a good header but the price is high. What header are you using now?


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still got the comptech on but have a hytech that will be installed in the near future.
when i got my comptech i think i got it gor 5 bills or 5 and a half.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Old Renegade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

still got the comptech on but have a hytech that will be installed in the near future.
when i got my comptech i think i got it gor 5 bills or 5 and a half.</TD></TR></TABLE> Nice

I'm going with a RMF narrow soon

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Maxidermist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Nice

I'm going with a RMF narrow soon </TD></TR></TABLE>

good deal. best of luck to you and your goals. did you already have that header or just got it. there is a lot of talk about people saying that they can't get their header and it has been on order for months. also some say the guy who makes them has health issues.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Maxidermist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You could also use Hasports, it's great it makes no power or torque
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I have the Hasport header, is there really no power gain with this mod?

 

the DC sports header works great... that's what i was using before i went turbo.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Old Renegade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

good deal. best of luck to you and your goals. did you already have that header or just got it. there is a lot of talk about people saying that they can't get their header and it has been on order for months. also some say the guy who makes them has health issues. </TD></TR></TABLE> I'm saving up for it now, I was going to buy it but I needed *** loads of supplies for my company QQ.

Randy has had some health issues, and being 15 seconds late on HT makes you super Hilter so he's got bad press. I'd still fully trust Randy to make my Header.

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I have the Hasport header, is there really no power gain with this mod?</TD></TR></TABLE> It might do a tiny bit of something, but it's made to fit not make power, in the all motor area they showed a few back to backs and it's not doing much.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jayswat91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the DC sports header works great... that's what i was using before i went turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE> Compaired to? lol... it's not a good header its ok at best.

 

[QUOTE=The Maxidermist] I'm saving up for it now, I was going to buy it but I needed *** loads of supplies for my company QQ.

Randy has had some health issues, and being 15 seconds late on HT makes you super Hilter so he's got bad press. I'd still fully trust Randy to make my Header.

so whats your goals as far as time slips and or wheel horsepower if you don't mind me asking?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Old Renegade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[QUOTE=The Maxidermist] I'm saving up for it now, I was going to buy it but I needed *** loads of supplies for my company QQ.

Randy has had some health issues, and being 15 seconds late on HT makes you super Hilter so he's got bad press. I'd still fully trust Randy to make my Header.

so whats your goals as far as time slips and or wheel horsepower if you don't mind me asking?</TD></TR></TABLE> Honestly, I don't care on either. I'm into having a fun street car that holds it's own making some hot laps.

Now, just to give some numbers on what i'd like said and done 220ish and breaking into 12s. I'll need other work, I'd asume 3-5 peak whp from a good header but some more under curve, where it matters most to me.

I don't want to take this thread of track anymore, but I'm happy to talk to you on PM for other non header related things