Anyone ever see or have pics of an EF or EG with a 4-link rear suspension in it? I have always wanted a RWD civic and just wanted to see some example of how it's been done before.

 

You'd reinforce the rear with an additional tube frame, as well as want to connect it to the front frame rails. You may want to look into the BIG horsepower muscle cars in which they 'plate' the rear (doube/triple the thickness of all metal by adding plates), and add a 4-link.

You usually won't find one though, as a 4-link is really for solid axles. You'd want indipendant because CV's are cheap and reliable now, and not something people gave a damn about in the 60's/70's.

If you're going to go that far for traction in a straight line (and willing to go that far), you may want to look at the later Grand National's suspension. Its the ladder-bar type where lots of grip ends up LIFTING the rear syspension up when you launch. If you look at any good GN lauches, the rear tires are *never* buried in the rear wheel wells from typical weight transfer.

 

I don't want an independant rear suspension. I want a 4-link setup with an 8.8" ford rear. This would be drag-race only, and IRS sucks in drag racing.

As for a GN rear suspension being similar to a ladder-bar, maybe you should look again. It's a 4-link setup just like every other G-body out there. It doesn't 'lift' the rear suspension, it plants it right. You can get a stock style suspension GN into the 7s.

 

RWD civic it can be done depends how deep are the pockets, I have seen a 94 eg RWD full frame with a chevy motor when I find the pics I will post them up. Here are some references
Your going to have to Frame the car up something like this

And it should look something like this in civic trim

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xxbulaxx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't want an independant rear suspension. I want a 4-link setup with an 8.8" ford rear. This would be drag-race only, and IRS sucks in drag racing.

As for a GN rear suspension being similar to a ladder-bar, maybe you should look again. It's a 4-link setup just like every other G-body out there. It doesn't 'lift' the rear suspension, it plants it right. You can get a stock style suspension GN into the 7s.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, typo of sorts. I mean to say lifts the rear body - every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction, so that shoves the axle to the ground. I also should have clairified, I mix up all the damn GN-type cars: http://home.att.net/~buickGNX/GNX/susp.htm

I was assuming this was a ricer-ish post, as you didn't mention your goals. I was thinking road car, since a rwd racing civic really wouldn't be competitive unless it was a full tube frame like basicly every other dedicated track car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Wonderfull &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">more close ups of that prelude now... must know want top convert my cd5 to rwd, and super curious about the transmission he is using..</TD></TR></TABLE>This another pic I found for the prelude is from the company G-Force they make transmissions and shifters, They made their own Reverse Rotation 5 speed trans for the B series engine.


Name: G-Force Products
Owner: Mike Long (Annville, Pa.)
Vehicle: Honda Prelude 2002 - Full chassis (Way Cool Rod Shop – 717-394-1353)
Motor: Honda H22 turbo gasolina
Transmision: GF-5R Reverse Rotation

 

Wow that is a very nice car.Butt does someone now what the price is for a rwd tranny for a B-serie?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sorry, typo of sorts. I mean to say lifts the rear body - every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction, so that shoves the axle to the ground. I also should have clairified, I mix up all the damn GN-type cars: http://home.att.net/~buickGNX/GNX/susp.htm

I was assuming this was a ricer-ish post, as you didn't mention your goals. I was thinking road car, since a rwd racing civic really wouldn't be competitive unless it was a full tube frame like basicly every other dedicated track car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh ok...I was gonna say, lifting the rear suspension defeats the whole purpose. And yeah the GNX has a crazy suspension setup...Similar to the 3rd and 4th gen camaro's.

Honestly, I want an all out drag car. In the 8s if not knocking on 7s. I'll be coming out of school making 60+ grand a year, so I'll have some cash to throw around. Idea was to cage and backhalf a CRX or EG, probably the latter. I considered a turbo rotary backed by th350 or Powerglide trans...But those get very expensive it seems.

 

just from experience...

turbo rotarys dont last long. built or not. id personally would love a 93 7 with a ls-x motor in it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DALS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just from experience...

turbo rotarys dont last long. built or not. id personally would love a 93 7 with a ls-x motor in it</TD></TR></TABLE>

what is your definition of a "built" rotary?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90DALS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just from experience...

turbo rotarys dont last long. built or not. id personally would love a 93 7 with a ls-x motor in it</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess those engines weren't built or tuned correctly because I have personally seen quite a few 500hp rotor motors with large side ports last for years. ALl of them ran premix instead of oil injection and were tuned with TEC-3's, SDS or Power FC's. All here in Japan and American owned.

 

rotaries suck

I have no basis for my statement...im just going to going out on a limb and say this because my friend of a friend told me that rotaries eat apex seals like cartmen eats cheesy poofs.

haha

 

Yes Rotaries do suck



Siguel Racing broke into the 6 second range with his 20b Single turbo 3 Rotor RX-7. His pass of 6.982 @198.02 MPH is believed to be the quickest a rotary has ever gone in the 1/4 mile.

7.47@184

7.52@177

7.61@172

Every car has issues you just need to figure them out It looks like some of these guys did something right.

I dont want to make it a rotary war is just that your statement is not correct


Modified by eddie_ek at 5:10 PM 8/21/2007

 

Bump for more info

 

damn....... but its a sweet ride........ though

 

if your going to be making 60k a year straight out of school why in gods name would you start with a fwd unibody chassis and hack it up to the point where you are left with just sheetmetal. Essentially all you are going to be left with is just the body and some one off tube frame interconnected to whats left of the chassis. Why not just design the chassis from scratch and put a fiberglass civic body on it? Turbo rotary to go into the 7s? how about ls1 with bolt ons and a fairly large shot of nitrous.... You are making this way over complicated.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RTErnie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rotaries suck

I have no basis for my statement...im just going to going out on a limb and say this because my friend of a friend told me that rotaries eat apex seals like cartmen eats cheesy poofs.

haha </TD></TR></TABLE>

That is usually caused by a bad port job (which is common), bad oil injection or incorrect premix mixture, crappy install by the builder or just a worn out motor.

Saying rotories suck is about the same as Porsche owners saying Ferraris can't hang or we can just refer to the ultra ghey Ford vs Chevy fued.

I'm a piston guy but I have seen quite a few rotories that I would own in a heartbeat. How about a Motec tuned, straight cut gear tranny, Bridge-ported 20B powered FC3S RX-7 that is circuit monster and is street legal STRAIGHT UP SEX!!!


Modified by Dee at 6:36 PM 8/28/2007

 

here is a rear wheel drive civic that i did and i have it for sale. i didnt get that crazy with the cage but it stays together pretty good and runs real nice.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2079609