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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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hey guys. i picked up a parts car 89 hatch (dx?) and it has a good 5 speed tranny in it. (as far as i know). i have a few questions though.... (im n3wbbbb)

1. i have a 90 hatch, std. model, 4 speed manual, will my axles work with the 5 speed tranny?

2. will the shift linkage from my std. civic work with the 5 speed?

3. am i going to need to do any wiring?

4. will my speedo be the same or will i need to change the input gear thingy??

5. im trying to take the tranny off without removing the engine... i emptied the tranny fluid, removed the axles, took off shift linkage, and i removed pretty much all the bolts holding the tranny on/in (i have a jack under it).. except for the bottom one on the starter (its a pain and i didnt have time to get to it today) however with all these bolts removed it does not seem to come off of the block at all. i have 5 bolts off of where the tranny bolts to the block. i will have 6 after i remove the starter one. then i took the tranny off of all the mounts. Is there anything i am missing? haynes says this should work?? im wondering if i should remove the bottom metal "plate" on the tranny that covers the bottom of the clutch? i dont really know. this is my first time touching a tranny. any help is wonderful, or even a reference to a good DIY.. thanks.

p.s i did search.


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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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sounds like your on the right track.....putting in the 5 speed will be just like putting the 4 speed back in...no wiring or swapping axles. good luck
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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awsome. thats nice to know. will make it allot easier. wut about the shift linkage?

and as for getting the tranny out... i need a bit of help? i wont work on it again till friday night so i got time to read tomorow night.

p.s this project was an amazing excuse to go out and buy a nice set of tools. for 250$ i got a 360 piece mastercraft socket set from canadian tire. it says on-sale normally 700$... i dunno anyone who would pay that, but its got a lifetime warrenty, so for 250$ im pumped. no more using parents tools!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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so do i need to take the flywheel cover on the bottom off to access anything??
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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yes youneed to take that off. it is bolted up to two bolts on the oil pan and you also need to take the exhaust off. you will need a 32 mm socket and a breaker bar with a pipe to take the axel nust off gl with that
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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also get new axel seals
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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got the exaust and axles off. already. tomorow night i will go take the flywheel cover off. hopefully that will help.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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the tranny wont move till you get that starter bolt out just so you know. and after that it will slide off might have to stick a pry bar in there to break it free.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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you didnt need to remove the exhaust....and it sounds like the only bolt left is the starter bolt...
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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i took the exhaust off cause i was using it on my car. and i am hopefully gonna be doin this tomorow. i planned on doing it friday but the exhaust took a while, i had to cut and weld it in a few places because it didnt fit my hatch.
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