is it worth it dc5-s?
i was searching around auto trader for my gf she needs a new car and i stumbled upon this sexy little beast http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...st=26
hmm at first i thought it was way overpriced but i guess its got a greddy kit.. but its still a used car with forced induction so get the paperwork from the install, maybe a dyno graph etc. and try and bump the price down if you're serious about buying it
it says it has all the receipts for everything and it says it has a clean car fax and i carfaxed it myself....i wanna test drive it i mean 20k and turbo someone couldn't have beaten on it that bad
Its a good rule of thumb to never buy someone elses headache...I mean project.
He has torn into that car pretty deep. It says that it has a 2.4L motor, and it has a turbo kit on it. Yea, the mileage is low, but I can almost guarentee that he beat the crap out of that car the first chance he got. With these cars, you dont find many people that build them to that degree and just baby them around town. Especailly with such a new car...how many people do you know that would do a full motor swap on a car with less than 20K on the odo? Either the previous owner is Mr. Money Bags, or he drove the car like a retard and destroyed the origional motor.
You also have to remember, if you are serious about this car, that modification does not add value to a car. That is unless is is a NOPI national winner with all kinds of magazine coverage, and so on. Even at that, it is still fitting in with a niche market. A real enthusiest would probably be willing to pay a premium with said coverage. The real factors that hold a cars value is the miles on the chassis (not the motor), if the title of the car is clean, the condition of the car, and how old the car is. There are obviously exceptions to this rule, but that is generally how it works. Also, you can point out to the seller that a GReddy Turbo kit is not "a $10,000 option" like he claims unless you are a tool, and got it up the butt by some installer.
I would take a look at the KBB value (which is actually a shade over $23,000 in excellent condition) and bring that as a tool to argue price. Like I said, the Suggested Retail Value is just a bit over $23K in excellent condition. Fact of the matter is, is that the car isn't in excellent condition anymore. The car holds no factory warantee anymore with the amount of upgrades done.
What I would do is add up the value of the aftermarket parts, cut that in half, then subtract that from the KBB value. On the high end thats about how much I would pay for such a car. You should read up on people that have bought modified cars and the problems they have had. Ask yourself...why do you think that the origional owner put so much time and money into such a new car and decided to sell it? There is more than likely something wrong with the car that will come out of your pocket in the end.
Ok, that's my rant for the morning. Good luck!
He has torn into that car pretty deep. It says that it has a 2.4L motor, and it has a turbo kit on it. Yea, the mileage is low, but I can almost guarentee that he beat the crap out of that car the first chance he got. With these cars, you dont find many people that build them to that degree and just baby them around town. Especailly with such a new car...how many people do you know that would do a full motor swap on a car with less than 20K on the odo? Either the previous owner is Mr. Money Bags, or he drove the car like a retard and destroyed the origional motor.
You also have to remember, if you are serious about this car, that modification does not add value to a car. That is unless is is a NOPI national winner with all kinds of magazine coverage, and so on. Even at that, it is still fitting in with a niche market. A real enthusiest would probably be willing to pay a premium with said coverage. The real factors that hold a cars value is the miles on the chassis (not the motor), if the title of the car is clean, the condition of the car, and how old the car is. There are obviously exceptions to this rule, but that is generally how it works. Also, you can point out to the seller that a GReddy Turbo kit is not "a $10,000 option" like he claims unless you are a tool, and got it up the butt by some installer.
I would take a look at the KBB value (which is actually a shade over $23,000 in excellent condition) and bring that as a tool to argue price. Like I said, the Suggested Retail Value is just a bit over $23K in excellent condition. Fact of the matter is, is that the car isn't in excellent condition anymore. The car holds no factory warantee anymore with the amount of upgrades done.
What I would do is add up the value of the aftermarket parts, cut that in half, then subtract that from the KBB value. On the high end thats about how much I would pay for such a car. You should read up on people that have bought modified cars and the problems they have had. Ask yourself...why do you think that the origional owner put so much time and money into such a new car and decided to sell it? There is more than likely something wrong with the car that will come out of your pocket in the end.
Ok, that's my rant for the morning. Good luck!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NoBottleJustThrottle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its a good rule of thumb to never buy someone elses headache...I mean project.
He has torn into that car pretty deep. It says that it has a 2.4L motor, and it has a turbo kit on it. Yea, the mileage is low, but I can almost guarentee that he beat the crap out of that car the first chance he got. With these cars, you dont find many people that build them to that degree and just baby them around town. Especailly with such a new car...how many people do you know that would do a full motor swap on a car with less than 20K on the odo? Either the previous owner is Mr. Money Bags, or he drove the car like a retard and destroyed the origional motor.
You also have to remember, if you are serious about this car, that modification does not add value to a car. That is unless is is a NOPI national winner with all kinds of magazine coverage, and so on. Even at that, it is still fitting in with a niche market. A real enthusiest would probably be willing to pay a premium with said coverage. The real factors that hold a cars value is the miles on the chassis (not the motor), if the title of the car is clean, the condition of the car, and how old the car is. There are obviously exceptions to this rule, but that is generally how it works. Also, you can point out to the seller that a GReddy Turbo kit is not "a $10,000 option" like he claims unless you are a tool, and got it up the butt by some installer.
I would take a look at the KBB value (which is actually a shade over $23,000 in excellent condition) and bring that as a tool to argue price. Like I said, the Suggested Retail Value is just a bit over $23K in excellent condition. Fact of the matter is, is that the car isn't in excellent condition anymore. The car holds no factory warantee anymore with the amount of upgrades done.
What I would do is add up the value of the aftermarket parts, cut that in half, then subtract that from the KBB value. On the high end thats about how much I would pay for such a car. You should read up on people that have bought modified cars and the problems they have had. Ask yourself...why do you think that the origional owner put so much time and money into such a new car and decided to sell it? There is more than likely something wrong with the car that will come out of your pocket in the end.
Ok, that's my rant for the morning. Good luck!</TD></TR></TABLE>
verry well said imo just think about, if u swapped a 2.4 liter motor in your rsx and turbod it, would u just baby it around? come on common sense here u know youd push to the highest potential! MOST ppl dont build fast cars to just baby it around and sell them a year or so after u buy it brand new, im 100% sure atleast someone beat up that car pretty bad! thats my .2 cents.
He has torn into that car pretty deep. It says that it has a 2.4L motor, and it has a turbo kit on it. Yea, the mileage is low, but I can almost guarentee that he beat the crap out of that car the first chance he got. With these cars, you dont find many people that build them to that degree and just baby them around town. Especailly with such a new car...how many people do you know that would do a full motor swap on a car with less than 20K on the odo? Either the previous owner is Mr. Money Bags, or he drove the car like a retard and destroyed the origional motor.
You also have to remember, if you are serious about this car, that modification does not add value to a car. That is unless is is a NOPI national winner with all kinds of magazine coverage, and so on. Even at that, it is still fitting in with a niche market. A real enthusiest would probably be willing to pay a premium with said coverage. The real factors that hold a cars value is the miles on the chassis (not the motor), if the title of the car is clean, the condition of the car, and how old the car is. There are obviously exceptions to this rule, but that is generally how it works. Also, you can point out to the seller that a GReddy Turbo kit is not "a $10,000 option" like he claims unless you are a tool, and got it up the butt by some installer.
I would take a look at the KBB value (which is actually a shade over $23,000 in excellent condition) and bring that as a tool to argue price. Like I said, the Suggested Retail Value is just a bit over $23K in excellent condition. Fact of the matter is, is that the car isn't in excellent condition anymore. The car holds no factory warantee anymore with the amount of upgrades done.
What I would do is add up the value of the aftermarket parts, cut that in half, then subtract that from the KBB value. On the high end thats about how much I would pay for such a car. You should read up on people that have bought modified cars and the problems they have had. Ask yourself...why do you think that the origional owner put so much time and money into such a new car and decided to sell it? There is more than likely something wrong with the car that will come out of your pocket in the end.
Ok, that's my rant for the morning. Good luck!</TD></TR></TABLE>
verry well said imo just think about, if u swapped a 2.4 liter motor in your rsx and turbod it, would u just baby it around? come on common sense here u know youd push to the highest potential! MOST ppl dont build fast cars to just baby it around and sell them a year or so after u buy it brand new, im 100% sure atleast someone beat up that car pretty bad! thats my .2 cents.
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First off the guy selling this car is a jerk-off. The Greddy kit for the RSX is the cheapest kit I have seen. 2800 for the kit, and another 900 for the intercooler. Even after install and everything else, the price wouldn't even come close to 10,0000 more like 6000. So saying that, the guy is most likely dishonest or got robbed. And by the pic you cant tell if it has a K24 or not, probably another lie. I would offer the guy, 15-16000. But no more because its modded. But the car does look pretty clean and has low miles. Throw 16000 in his face and see what he says.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by david11 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i personally wouldnt spend that much on a car thats been modded...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i wouldnt buy a car thats been modded so much already
i wouldnt buy a car thats been modded so much already
Car's aren't either babied or beat on, come on. Of course he drove it hard but who doesn't with their Honda? Check how big the turbo is and ask what the highest boost he ran was. Do a compression test, check how well his work was done (did he soldier wires and heat-shrink or just twist and tape?), if he didn't do the install who did? How does it idle? Does it throw codes? Ask what problems he has had with kit installed. All these types of questions will show how meticulously and thorough he did all the work on the car. If it's only $2000 over KBB, a swap and turbo kit is well worth it. The only modded car I ever bought was done right. And no, I wasn't lucky, I just wasn't stupid and I checked everything over.
i agree with what everyone else has said already and your just getting robbed ... the funniest part i think though is that (even though i didnt pay for my car myself) i got my '06 DC5 type-s, brand new from the dealership, with 5 miles on it cause they didnt keep their cars on the lot, full tank of gas, crappy factory warranty (which i have taken advantage of), and complimentary low jack security system for only 23,999 + tax, registration, and etc. this was last May of '06 and all i did was look for it on "cars direct" ... they only find cars for cheap in Cali but it saved me the trouble of paying for it in Vegas where its base model price was 24.5 at and didnt come in black ... i ended up saving over 6k and just drove it 365 miles back to vegas in one tank of gas with a mirror rock hitting the windshield half way back ... put a little crack but the dealer in vegas fixed it anyway ... LOL ... i guess the only bad part was since it was from out of state i had to pay for tinting (250 for 5% and lifetime tint warranty ... lol), re-registration (which was bout 500), and re-taxed me (i dont remember but it think it was 500 as well) ... it had everything i asked for in options (except the shift **** which i ended up buying as my first mod 75) ... besides that its all good ... check it out - CarsDirect -
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andoxviii »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't do it. This car has been beaten.
Why else would it have a turbo kit? Not to mention it's got a K24 hybrid</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to mention(take it from a former lot Kid) at the dealership they completley beat the living **** out of this car. BTW we had a boosted lexus GS430 at my acura store, i was surprised ti stil ran when i got out, also had a subi Legacy Spec B, drove it for 10 min check engine light, dnt buy it
Why else would it have a turbo kit? Not to mention it's got a K24 hybrid</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to mention(take it from a former lot Kid) at the dealership they completley beat the living **** out of this car. BTW we had a boosted lexus GS430 at my acura store, i was surprised ti stil ran when i got out, also had a subi Legacy Spec B, drove it for 10 min check engine light, dnt buy it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People don't put turbos on cars to get groceries and drive to church. You can pretty much bet it's been driven hard.</TD></TR></TABLE>
unless the milk spoils or god gets mad at them for being late
unless the milk spoils or god gets mad at them for being late
let's see, i paid 22,900 before TTL in 2005 for my 2006 rsx-s. the guy wants 25,000 for his rsx with almost 20,000 miles when i had 2 miles on my car. Not worth buying that car imo.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andoxviii »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't do it. This car has been beaten.
Why else would it have a turbo kit? Not to mention it's got a K24 hybrid</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeap I'd stay away its possibly beaten to hell. Its being sold for a reason.
Why else would it have a turbo kit? Not to mention it's got a K24 hybrid</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeap I'd stay away its possibly beaten to hell. Its being sold for a reason.
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