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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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i fully understand that lsd trannys to not give you any horsepower, however does it allot more of the horse power the car has to the wheel. i have an h22a jdm bhp 200 whp 170-180 but if i have an lsd tranny will it allot more whp to the wheel of the total 200bhp and give me, i guess more whp. please explain
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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ok i think what your asking is do you need lsd?? i really couldnt gather much from that. Also a limited slip differential will not give you horsepower, it will give you better traction, thus allowing you to put the power to the ground more efficiently.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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No, what he was asking is do you lose more or less horsepower through the drivetrain when you have LSD. He is under the impression that you would lose less power through the drivetrain if you have LSD. I really have no idea but hopefully that cleared it up for anyone reading.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 04:46 AM
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with a limited slip it gives powers to both drive wheels , instead of just one. With an ordinary open differential, a lot of power is wasted during wheelspin under acceleration. This happens because the open differential shifts power to the wheel with less grip An lsd does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. I hope this answers your question..
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 05:40 AM
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these threads hurt my head!!
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20beast978 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with a limited slip it gives powers to both drive wheels , instead of just one. With an ordinary open differential, a lot of power is wasted during wheelspin under acceleration. This happens because the open differential shifts power to the wheel with less grip An lsd does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. I hope this answers your question..</TD></TR></TABLE>

No not really. We know how LSD works that simple. The question is how much power is lost or retained with LSD. The average Honda loses 10-15% Hp though the drivetrain. (thats the reason there is diffrence between whp and flywheel hp.) The question is does LSD lower or raise that 10-15%?
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smileycvc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No not really. We know how LSD works that simple. The question is how much power is lost or retained with LSD. The average Honda loses 10-15% Hp though the drivetrain. (thats the reason there is diffrence between whp and flywheel hp.) The question is does LSD lower or raise that 10-15%?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm this still hurts my head!! Why does it matter...if you have enough power or do alot of racing in the curvies....get a lsd....if it takes more power or less power to go as fast...who cares, you either have to have it or you dont....
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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welp, this is my take on it, you are placing a component into the trans that was not there before, (assuming your putting in an after market lsd) therefore adding weight. In theory, yes you would be loosing some hp, (someone correct me if im wrong) however it is extremely negligible, id say not enough for anyone to notice at all. In addition as everyone has stated, the benefits far outweigh by a million to one, the negative affects. If an individual says, "im not buying an lsd because im robbing myself of power" they are an idiot. Therefore, buying an lsd will infact put some more power which your h22 is wasting to the pavement instead of spinning that single wheel. Two wheels driving the car helps the wheels grip the road which transfers the motors energy through your transmission, wheels etc into the movement of the car at a faster rate .....the more energy you can transfer instead of spinning of your wheel/wheels, means the more your car will move which is why people buy slicks. Slicks help to grip the road resulting in even more movement. One thing to note is that, you can only put down as much power as you are making....in an ideal setting with 100% grip you could put down all 180 horses of your h22....with todays technology, theres not much you can do to put every last ounce of power down besides having some kinda of permanent linkage to the ground ....but then youd be faced with other issues after that. Good luck on your decision


Modified by Godspeed07 at 12:37 PM 8/9/2007
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Godspeed07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">welp, this is my take on it, you are placing a component into the trans that was not there before, (assuming your putting in an after market lsd) therefore adding weight. In theory, yes you would be loosing some hp, (someone correct me if im wrong) however it is extremely negligible, id say not enough for anyone to notice at all. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You are replacing the open diff which is just as heavy as the aftermarket unit therefore, if any power is lost at all based on any negligible gains in weight, it is certainly not going to be as perceptible as say taking a passenger.

Get an LSD ...be it torsen or clutch..hell even viscous... anything is better than nothing....
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Godspeed07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">welp, this is my take on it, you are placing a component into the trans that was not there before, (assuming your putting in an after market lsd) therefore adding weight. In theory, yes you would be loosing some hp, (someone correct me if im wrong) however it is extremely negligible, id say not enough for anyone to notice at all. In addition as everyone has stated, the benefits far outweigh by a million to one, the negative affects. If an individual says, "im not buying an lsd because im robbing myself of power" they are an idiot. Therefore, buying an lsd will infact put some more power which your h22 is wasting to the pavement instead of spinning that single wheel. Two wheels driving the car helps the wheels grip the road which transfers the motors energy through your transmission, wheels etc into the movement of the car at a faster rate .....the more energy you can transfer instead of spinning of your wheel/wheels, means the more your car will move which is why people buy slicks. Slicks help to grip the road resulting in even more movement. One thing to note is that, you can only put down as much power as you are making....in an ideal setting with 100% grip you could put down all 180 horses of your h22....with todays technology, theres not much you can do to put every last ounce of power down besides having some kinda of permanent linkage to the ground ....but then youd be faced with other issues after that. Good luck on your decision

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well put... the benefits far outweigh the negative affects personally i wouldn't even break my head over this, if you wanna lay your power down and make it count do the lsd, if you don't want to sacrifice a little power for traction then that is that.... you'll have the power with only one wheel putting it down... doesn't make sense to make horse power but not worry about traction...
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Thats what I was thinking. I have LSD and love it but I was intreseted in what people had to say
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You are replacing the open diff which is just as heavy as the aftermarket unit therefore, if any power is lost at all based on any negligible gains in weight, it is certainly not going to be as perceptible as say taking a passenger.

Get an LSD ...be it torsen or clutch..hell even viscous... anything is better than nothing....</TD></TR></TABLE>

didn't know the open diff was comparable in weight to an lsd....learn a new thing everyday thanks for the clarification.
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