ok so i was jw what some of you guys may have done to your accords if you didn't swap the motor out. i have a 96 accord lx f22b2. i don't have too much done yet. i have it lowered with kyb agx shocks and eibach sportline springs. i have the typical intake lol. i have hedman headers. i was planning on getting a throttle body spacer soon. i was thining of getting an intake manifold ported and polished with a billet throttle body but i was told that may be a useless upgrade since i'm not demanding more fuel. any help would be great.

 

A throttle body spacer won't do anything. Don't waste your money on it.

 

why wouldn't it. i've heard they help from numerous people.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord_raffi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why wouldn't it. i've heard they help from numerous people.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They help a little if you have a CARBURETOR. On a fuel injected engine like yours it's completely pointless. How would a little spiral swirl the air enough to keep it swirling through the plenum and then all the intake ports? It's ridiculous....

Also getting your intake manifold ported and polished is pointless too, it's not a restriction right now. A larger throttle body will give you faster throttle response, but it's also probably not a restriction at your current level.

Read around some more and learn how engines work. Try the FAQs here on honda-tech and lots of other car forums, also howstuffworks.com is pretty good.

 

well iknow it's a completely different class but a friend of mine had a tbs put on his ram 1500. after he put that on, he went to the track and somehow managed to shave off 3 tenths of his 1/4 mile time. now i'm definitly not expecting that much of a gain. he told me and i thought i would give it a try.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord_raffi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well iknow it's a completely different class but a friend of mine had a tbs put on his ram 1500. after he put that on, he went to the track and somehow managed to shave off 3 tenths of his 1/4 mile time. now i'm definitly not expecting that much of a gain. he told me and i thought i would give it a try.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In all fairness, there is alot of factors that can shave 3/10s off someones 1/4 mile time.

 

well not to start sounding like an *** or anything but when you are running roughly a consistent time, then do something to your car and begin running a new roughly consistent time from there on out, then i would assume the mod helped to achieve that. i understand there is factors like humidity and such but it's all a little too coincidental and such. that's what i have to say about it

 

Well it seems like theres no arguing with you. Believe me from experience that a throttle body spacer does absolutely nothing, zip, zero. But if you want go ahead and buy one

 

well well well how the tides have turned. the TBS actually works. my final verdict is that you can probably get a cheap one on ebay for $40 rather than the $90 ones and get the same power

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord_raffi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well not to start sounding like an *** or anything but when you are running roughly a consistent time, then do something to your car and begin running a new roughly consistent time from there on out, then i would assume the mod helped to achieve that. i understand there is factors like humidity and such but it's all a little too coincidental and such. that's what i have to say about it</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL! he probably had less fuel in the tank haha weight reduction FTW

dude, get a K24 and bore and stroke itn N/A to 300HP

i seen it in a teg, and it was hawt

 

thatd dumb dude, i think you're kind of a ricer lol, throwing parts on a car doesnt always make it faster, get better tires or something

or "power pulleys"

 

just buy a tornado...it will kick ***!!! lol..
get clear tail lights and stickers, ur talking like an extra 50 horse there

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord_raffi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well well well how the tides have turned. the TBS actually works. my final verdict is that you can probably get a cheap one on ebay for $40 rather than the $90 ones and get the same power</TD></TR></TABLE>

It doesn't give you any power...go learn about engines.

 

alright fine....throttle response is superb then as for you 1cpu...go drive your ugly *** 6th gen.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord_raffi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well iknow it's a completely different class but a friend of mine had a tbs put on his ram 1500. after he put that on, he went to the track and somehow managed to shave off 3 tenths of his 1/4 mile time. now i'm definitly not expecting that much of a gain. he told me and i thought i would give it a try.</TD></TR></TABLE>

im surprised someone hasn't said it but trucks aren't multiport injection. They have the fuel injected into the the throttle body, so yes it will help a truck. But last time i checked, and accord was a luxuary car, not a truck.

 

well thank you for shedding some light and at least helping out rather than just saying it won't work for my car.

 

Dickbreath, You're just making your intake tube longer, the fuel is still dumping in the same spot, traveling the same distance... you could just as well stick the spacer to the other end of your intake tube.

Edit: Find out HOW something works to see if it will even benefit your application.

 

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im surprised someone hasn't said it but trucks aren't multiport injection. They have the fuel injected into the the throttle body, so yes it will help a truck. But last time i checked, and accord was a luxuary car, not a truck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pretty much all modern gas trucks use multiport efi. He didn't say what year Ram it was, but odds are it was multiport. Even Chevy moved away from throttle body injection in the mid-late 90s.

And I might be nitpicking here, but Accords aren't luxury cars.

 

My God, this is ridiculous.

Look man, go ahead and buy every cheap part you can for your Accord and when you are still running in the 17s go ahead and enjoy yourself.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FarinaMotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Pretty much all modern gas trucks use multiport efi. He didn't say what year Ram it was, but odds are it was multiport. Even Chevy moved away from throttle body injection in the mid-late 90s.

And I might be nitpicking here, but Accords aren't luxury cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>


im assuming its a under a 2000 ram.

and uh,

then whats an accord? Its a family sedan, but its hondas luxury car

 

listen to yourself lol. i'm assuming by your name you did an H22 swap. WOW that's wicked original. i don't give anyone any credit for just doing the swap because it's a ******* used motor that more or less fits right in 90% of the time. now if you do any headwork or bottom end then you have something to show off. have fun running your 15's and snapping your front axles with your launch. the only reason i havn't done anything major on this car is 1) i am getting another car next summer and 2) although VTEC is an ingenious idea, i hate it just because it gets power gains throughout the RPM'S which is not going to work well for a turbo setup. i wanted some cheap mods knowing full well this wasn't going to be my car for the next year so why dump the 3 grand into forging my block and then another for a turbo setup, knowing full well i won't keep the car. and listen up bud, if you read CAREFULLY at an earlier post by me, it says a slight increase in power was noticed. i know i'm not running anything lower than a 15. i just wanted my car peppier than stock. so maybe you should simply READ rather than accusing me of being a ricer with stickers, neons, and god knows what else.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord_raffi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">listen to yourself lol. i'm assuming by your name you did an H22 swap. WOW that's wicked original. i don't give anyone any credit for just doing the swap because it's a ******* used motor that more or less fits right in 90% of the time. now if you do any headwork or bottom end then you have something to show off. have fun running your 15's and snapping your front axles with your launch. the only reason i havn't done anything major on this car is 1) i am getting another car next summer and 2) although VTEC is an ingenious idea, i hate it just because it gets power gains throughout the RPM'S which is not going to work well for a turbo setup. i wanted some cheap mods knowing full well this wasn't going to be my car for the next year so why dump the 3 grand into forging my block and then another for a turbo setup, knowing full well i won't keep the car. and listen up bud, if you read CAREFULLY at an earlier post by me, it says a slight increase in power was noticed. i know i'm not running anything lower than a 15. i just wanted my car peppier than stock. so maybe you should simply READ rather than accusing me of being a ricer with stickers, neons, and god knows what else.</TD></TR></TABLE>


no offense but with the f22xx you don't need to sleeve it for a turbo, maybe you'd upgrade the internals but you don't have to up to a certain point. But i believe the blocks good for 400+ whp


Modified by sony224422 at 4:44 PM 8/17/2007

 

Accord_Raffi, I think you need to do a lil more researching before you go out and spend 3 grand on "block forging". I'm just curious as to what shop would provide such a service. Frankly, I dont know how someone can forge a block after its been made.

Perhaps a quick read on the Wiki will answer this question.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forge
"Forging is the working of metal by plastic deformation. ...processes of raising, sinking, rolling, swaging, drawing and upsetting are essentially forging operations ...."

Based on that definition, I dont see how its possible to 'forge' a block that is already cast...it just doesnt make sendse

 

alright what i meant was replacing most of the motor internals to handle the higher boost from a turbo. idk why i called it forging the block, prob cuz some kid around here said it once and it's been stuck in my head since. but ya i took a guess that to have my motor built to the point where i wouldn't have to worry about blowing it would cost three grand. my friend called a company called ESP for his mustang bullitt to have his motor built to handle a twin turbo setup and they told him at least 6 grand. so i wanna say it would cost me 2.5 to 3 grand to have my motor built to the point where i wouldn't really worry too much about blowing the motor. now that is extensive but w/e. i won't be getting it done anyways.


Modified by accord_raffi at 11:18 PM 8/17/2007

 

okay wtf. i just told you, you don't need to work the f22 block. its sleeved already.