Idles great then drops
ok so ive been having this problem for awhile now
and i just never really read into
btw i already read all the posts on this subject
anyways ok so the car is a 97 ex manual with 116k on it
it idles at 1grand when its completely stopped
but whenever i start to move it drops really low
like its about to stall and it takes a second depending on how hard u push the gas
but then it once you get going it doesnt have a problem
does anyone else have this problem?
and i just never really read into
btw i already read all the posts on this subject
anyways ok so the car is a 97 ex manual with 116k on it
it idles at 1grand when its completely stopped
but whenever i start to move it drops really low
like its about to stall and it takes a second depending on how hard u push the gas
but then it once you get going it doesnt have a problem
does anyone else have this problem?
haha well depends what you mean
but i am curious about one thing
if you look in the gauge cluster
there is a little green square and then a
"MAINTANECNE REQUIRED" or whatever
well mine was green, then orange, and now red
and i prolly should look at that cuz i really have no idea
what it means
but yeah the idle isnt the clutch haha :D
but i am curious about one thing
if you look in the gauge cluster
there is a little green square and then a
"MAINTANECNE REQUIRED" or whatever
well mine was green, then orange, and now red
and i prolly should look at that cuz i really have no idea
what it means
but yeah the idle isnt the clutch haha :D
Don't worry about the maintenance reminder. That's just based on mileage to remind you to change oil.
How's your normal tune-up stuff like plugs & wires?
How about cleaning your IACV? Have you checked your base idle?
How's your normal tune-up stuff like plugs & wires?
How about cleaning your IACV? Have you checked your base idle?
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do u mean base as in just normal
like 1k rpm
because thats what it idles at
a standstill
i havent checked the plugs or wires since i got the car back in november
what should i be looking for
as far as things wrong with them
because i have noticed that it game with these
very gay, blue, wires
and i just assumed they were new
like 1k rpm
because thats what it idles at
a standstill
i havent checked the plugs or wires since i got the car back in november
what should i be looking for
as far as things wrong with them
because i have noticed that it game with these
very gay, blue, wires
and i just assumed they were new
Plugs should be NGK ZFR5F-11. Some people have had troubles with other brands of plugs. You can check wires for arcing by starting in the dark & looking for them to glow.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slim689 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw i already read all the posts on this subject
</TD></TR></TABLE>There's quite a few posts explaining what the "BASE" idle is all about.
First, there's no point until your IACV & throttle body are cleaned.
Then make sure the throttle plate closes completely.
The throttle cable must be slack.
The mechanical stop screw must not hold the throttle open any more than just barely preventing it from wedging stuck closed.
Engine warmed up completely, all accessory loads turned off.
Unplug the IACV which will cause the idle to drop low.
Nurse it so it doesn't stall.
Adjust to 500rpm(??) using the air bleed screw.
(check whether 500 is correct for '97, I'm not sure)
When you plug the IACV back in, the idle will increase.
Turn it off & let it cool down. Reset your ECU.
Start it without touching the gas pedal at all.
Let it warm up completely without touching the gas pedal at all.
This allows the ECU to 're-learn' the behavior of the idle control system.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slim689 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw i already read all the posts on this subject
</TD></TR></TABLE>There's quite a few posts explaining what the "BASE" idle is all about.
First, there's no point until your IACV & throttle body are cleaned.
Then make sure the throttle plate closes completely.
The throttle cable must be slack.
The mechanical stop screw must not hold the throttle open any more than just barely preventing it from wedging stuck closed.
Engine warmed up completely, all accessory loads turned off.
Unplug the IACV which will cause the idle to drop low.
Nurse it so it doesn't stall.
Adjust to 500rpm(??) using the air bleed screw.
(check whether 500 is correct for '97, I'm not sure)
When you plug the IACV back in, the idle will increase.
Turn it off & let it cool down. Reset your ECU.
Start it without touching the gas pedal at all.
Let it warm up completely without touching the gas pedal at all.
This allows the ECU to 're-learn' the behavior of the idle control system.
ok well i just found that the problem has something to do with my ac
because i had the ac off and then i started it up
and as soon as i turned the ****
the idle dropped to an almost stall
then recovered
but as soon as i took off it starts to stall
and then it picks up again
and another thing
for a couple of months
i was having this problem with my throttle sticking
so what i did was
i just tightend the throttle to compensate for it sticking
which fixed it
but now i have this gay ac problem
because i had the ac off and then i started it up
and as soon as i turned the ****
the idle dropped to an almost stall
then recovered
but as soon as i took off it starts to stall
and then it picks up again
and another thing
for a couple of months
i was having this problem with my throttle sticking
so what i did was
i just tightend the throttle to compensate for it sticking
which fixed it
but now i have this gay ac problem
also the ac box in the dash makes a louds noise when the air is running
and i replaced a serpentine belt no to long ago and idk if that has something to do with all this
and i replaced a serpentine belt no to long ago and idk if that has something to do with all this
OK, for all of this adjustment to be any good, your AC needs to be turned off. ALL ACCESSORY LOADS must be turned off.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slim689 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was having this problem with my throttle sticking
so what i did was
i just tightend the throttle to compensate for it sticking
which fixed it
but now i have this gay ac problem</TD></TR></TABLE>That didn't really fix it. It substituted another problem which makes it all the more confusing to deal with the original problem. Follow the procedure exactly, or don't bother.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slim689 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was having this problem with my throttle sticking
so what i did was
i just tightend the throttle to compensate for it sticking
which fixed it
but now i have this gay ac problem</TD></TR></TABLE>That didn't really fix it. It substituted another problem which makes it all the more confusing to deal with the original problem. Follow the procedure exactly, or don't bother.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slim689 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do u mean
what procedure are you talking about
turning the ac off?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The procedure of setting BASE idle then letting the ECU re-learn.
If you tightened the cable or the throttle stop as a way to adjust idle, you cause the system to fight against itself. That doesn't really fix anything, it just covers up one problem with another.
If the idle control is set up properly, and the AC still drags down the idle too low, then maybe the AC is overcharged or the compressor isn't working right. Something that would cause the AC to have more drag than it should. In that case, you have to deal with the AC don't cover it up by propping up the idle.
what procedure are you talking about
turning the ac off?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The procedure of setting BASE idle then letting the ECU re-learn.
If you tightened the cable or the throttle stop as a way to adjust idle, you cause the system to fight against itself. That doesn't really fix anything, it just covers up one problem with another.
If the idle control is set up properly, and the AC still drags down the idle too low, then maybe the AC is overcharged or the compressor isn't working right. Something that would cause the AC to have more drag than it should. In that case, you have to deal with the AC don't cover it up by propping up the idle.
well the only reason i tightened the the throttle was to keep it from sticking
i didnt do it much
just enough so that when i push the pedal it wouldnt stick
i didnt do it much
just enough so that when i push the pedal it wouldnt stick
What exactly did you tighten? The cable? Or the mechanical stop on the throttle shaft? The cable itself needs to have a little slack.
Is it possible that the throttle plate is bent or something? It should close real good, letting almost no air in, but not stick closed.
Is it possible that the throttle plate is bent or something? It should close real good, letting almost no air in, but not stick closed.
i think it may just need to be cleaned
but my throttle cable has lots of slack before i did it
and now it has less slack but im pretty sure there is a little bit
im gonna go check in a minute
but my throttle cable has lots of slack before i did it
and now it has less slack but im pretty sure there is a little bit
im gonna go check in a minute
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