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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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i swap the jdm b16a obd1 engine and tranny into my eg today.
**** happens..first..the harness connector at the driver side firewall wont reach to jdm's connector cause i guess jdm is RHD so every connector location is opposite to us eg models..
second of all..the shift linkage that i am using integra GSR 94 up and it wont fit.cause it is too long.i was like what the hell...everything goes wrong today...
i am really stressed and frustrated..
who can help me out please..i need trhe advise..


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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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your not suppose to use a JDM engine harness for a LHD swap unless you want to extend a bunch of wires to where they need to go... use your stock D series harness and modify that abit.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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you will have to use the harness that was on your previous engine and cut and lengthen the harness so it will reach. and you will need to add some pins to your ECU. and im pretty sure you can use GSR shift linkage.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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sounds like you may have gotten shift linkage from a dohc del sol, it's a bit longer then the integra linkage.

sucks for you.

same thing happened to me too, it sucks having the motor in and everything in place, then you slide under the car and it ***** all over you and the rest of your day

gooddaysir.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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i dont see why a gsr linkage isnt working. its just too long?
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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yeah i never had a problem with GSR shift linkage. I think they gave you a different one.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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yeah the people who sold me and claimed it is gsr shift linkage is too long
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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they lied to you. GSR is perfect for a EG. I use the same linkage in my civic hb and it fits perfect. Go back and tell them to find you the right one or you want a refund. Fk that
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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is it because the shift linkage still has the oem dual bent shifter attached?
i guess i will remove the shifter first thing tomorrow mornign and keep u guys posteed
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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no the shifter wouldn't make a difference i don't think. bump to help this guy out though. good luck man
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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anyone?
thanks
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 02:27 AM
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rywire.com buy the vtec conversion harness its 65 plus cheaper that buying a new harness
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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ok i have done the wire extended conversion
and also i took the oem integra shifter off ..
and the shift linkage pops right in the place...
for those who has dc integra shift linkage with sifhter attached and want to install it onto eg hatch..u have to disconnect the shifter first..
and i am much much happier now
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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you don't have to take the shifter out first....
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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ya it sounds like they gave you the del sol vtec linkage its a couple inches longer than the rest of the b series linkages
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 04:28 AM
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I have a 1990 jdm b16a sir obdo motor i want to put it in a 92 cx eg hatch want to know what engine harness I can use and do I need to replace the obdo distributor to a obd1 distributor or can I find a jumper harness from the obdo distributor to the obd1 engine harness?
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jivanko
I have a 1990 jdm b16a sir obdo motor i want to put it in a 92 cx eg hatch want to know what engine harness I can use and do I need to replace the obdo distributor to a obd1 distributor or can I find a jumper harness from the obdo distributor to the obd1 engine harness?
Use the CX hatch engine harness and modify it to fit the B16A. You will need an OBD-1 or OBD-2A distributor... the OBD-0 distributor will NOT work with an OBD-1 ECU. You will also need a set of OBD-1 fuel injectors.
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 02:46 AM
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Could I use a 1.8 obd1 non vtec distributor and injectors or do I have to buy a new distributor that has vtec thanks
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 09:16 AM
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You “can” use the 1.8 ls dist BUT you have to cut off one ear thus only giving you two mounting points and also idk if any internal bits need to change.

injectors you can use pretty much any obd1 injects, besides maybe vx, they are all 240cc.
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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Could I use a obdo distributor step down harness to the obd1 eg harness if they make it instead of buying a new obd1 distributor
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JRCivic1
Use the CX hatch engine harness and modify it to fit the B16A. You will need an OBD-1 or OBD-2A distributor... the OBD-0 distributor will NOT work with an OBD-1 ECU. You will also need a set of OBD-1 fuel injectors.
OP, the problem isn't that the wiring plugs are different... the issue is the CYP sensor inside the OBD-0 distributor reports it's position 16 times per revolution... the OBD-1 distributor reports it's position 24 times per revolution. This discrepancy makes firing spark plugs in the proper time impossible. So I hope you understand now that just because it "plugs in" doesn't mean that it works.
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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 03:22 AM
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My other question is do they make a jumper harness for the obdo distributor to the obd1 eg harness cause the computer I’m using fits the obd1 eg harness in car
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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JRCivic1
Use the CX hatch engine harness and modify it to fit the B16A. You will need an OBD-1 or OBD-2A distributor... the OBD-0 distributor will NOT work with an OBD-1 ECU. You will also need a set of OBD-1 fuel injectors.
Originally Posted by JRCivic1
OP, the problem isn't that the wiring plugs are different... the issue is the CYP sensor inside the OBD-0 distributor reports it's position 16 times per revolution... the OBD-1 distributor reports it's position 24 times per revolution. This discrepancy makes firing spark plugs in the proper time impossible. So I hope you understand now that just because it "plugs in" doesn't mean that it works.
Originally Posted by Jivanko
My other question is do they make a jumper harness for the obdo distributor to the obd1 eg harness cause the computer I’m using fits the obd1 eg harness in car
No, no commercial company makes such an adapter... and the reason is that the distributor WON'T WORK !!! I have said this multiple times in your thread and you continue to ask about the solution that you WANT to work. You MUST use an OBD-1 (which plugs right in) or OBD-2A (which will need a jumper harness as you have asked) DOHC VTEC distributor. If you try to use a non-VTEC "B" series distributor as stated above, you will have to chop one of the three ears off the housing and only one bolt will hold it to the cylinder head and your ignition timing MAY be able to be set properly, but this is NOT the recommended solution; it is a hack.

Did I mention that you cannot use an OBD-0 VTEC distributor in an OBD-1 car unless you use an OBD-0 ECU with it (which would require a reverse OBD-1 -> OBD-0 ECU adapter harness) ???
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 02:10 AM
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A 94 95 Honda del sol vtec distributor from a b16a3 will work on my 90 jdm b16a sir engine?
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 08:35 PM
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A 94 95 Honda del sol vtec distributor from a b16a3 will work on my 90 jdm b16a sir engine?
It WILL if you swap your OBD-0 PR3 ECU for an OBD-1 P30 ECU. You would need an OBD-0 -> OBD-1 ECU adapter harness as well as the matching distributor adapter. Simply, an OBD-0 distributor MUST use an OBD-0 ECU... an OBD-1/2 distributor MUST use an OBD-1/2 ECU... as in an OBD-1 ECU will work with either an OBD-1 or OBD-2 distributor.
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