what does a h2b consist of? how much hp/tourqe would it make. how much boost could it handel on stock internals?

 

H2b is an h series block with a b series tranny. it makes as much torque as the motor can put out, and it handles about as much as a the h series u put the tranny on

 

well h22a with a b18c5 trans on stock internals wat kind of results/ how much boost could it handel

 

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Depends on the tuner. Capable of 350whp on stock block. You'll want valves/retainers though.

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1998426

h22 swap info.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=362984

more 92-00 detailed swap info

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=650329

h22 into civic guide

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=650329

Thread about regular h22 swap axle breakage

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=434668

h/f compression ratio calculator

http://www.zealautowerks.com/hfseries.html

Myth solved about h22 weight. (it's not an issue, ~22 lbs)

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550

Debate on h22 vs b18c5 (ITR0

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=626892

Common H/F series engines explained

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_H_engine

H22 FRM sleeves explained

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2055437

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You got a long way to go before you blow out an ITR trans due to SHEER HORSEPOWER.

It can take as much power as the motor (h22) can.

You won't kill the transmission, the motor will go LONG before your ITR tranny craps out from too much torque...well ****, your axle will snap b4 the tranny goes...

I'm not an expert on F/H tranny's so I can't tell you much, but it could probably hold ~300whp on stock internals, H22s use FRM sleeves (a reinforced compund opposed to the stock steel sleeves that most other Honda blocks use) so they got problems under boost.

You can probably lay a good 8 psi on a mid-sized turbo w/o worrying about anything. Though if you wanted to build the motor up you'd have to start by boring out the motor and re-sleeving it with steel sleeves. Then forged rods, pistons, ARP studs, blockguard, and you should be able to take more boost.

On a well built H22 you can push it easily into 400whp and usually past 500whp with a good sized turbo. As for the trans, that's just the ratio at which the RPM of the engine gets down to the wheels...it has no effect on your power output - that's all engine. It has effect on your time (shorter trans = quicker, but higher RPM), but not power.

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The H2B can take as much as you can throw at an H22...the motor will blow long before that trans takes a crap from too much torque.

 

a couple of users recently have reported boosting 350-380whp on their h22 setups.

the frm problem was a problem years ago. With newer tuning (according to the h22 owners) boosting is much more viable.

The s2k, nsx, and celica gts's all have frm sleeves, People seem to be boosting all of those fine on stock internals.

F22 sohcs have frm sleeves, they respond beautifully to not only boost but bolt ons as well.

 

alright thanks guys

 

Hi I'm currently building a H22 ENGINE WITH B16B trans. Ported head, Triangle valves, Agressive ported intake manifold, Pro 2 cams, Supertech valves, seals, retainers, Pro cam gears, Cp pistons 11.5;1, Eagle rods, Lightened crankshaft, ATI damper, King bearings, ARP studs, 74mm tb, Haltech Elite 1500.
FUEL always either e85 or e100 and sometimes vp's

just wondering with this built how much horse power I can get and very welcome from all of you to give me more recommendation for my built to make it faster

cheerss

 

Are you sleeving the block ?

 

Yes bro I forgot to mentioned it, my block sleeved with Darton

 

I'd estimate 240-250WHP from a loose guess. Depends on the dyno too obviously, and making sure you get a good quality tune (critical) - It's going to be fast as **** mated to a B16B transmission.

It would have been good to get higher compression pistons, you can run 12.5:1 on 93 octane fuel. With E85 I'm pretty sure you could go all the way up to 13.5:1 which would also make larger cams like the Pro 3 a better fit for the engine. That would have put you closer to the 260-270WHP mark, but regardless the engine is going to perform great.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on what the compression limits are with E85, I've never run flex fuel myself I just know it offers a higher threshold than 93 octane on it's own.

 

Thanks for the info bro I really really hope I can get at least 240whp with my spec. I still confused to go with higher compression because there's a possibility for me to boost the engine, I got Gtx 3584rs gen2 already. but still thinking better with turbo or go higher compression. help me get recommendation. and 1 more thing, is it better to keep the gear ratio stock b16b or change all the gear ratio sets with spoon or M factory

My tuner make 2 switches in my car. 1 switch is for 98 octane fuel with less aggressive tuned and the 2nd switch is for e85 but usually I always prepare for e100 if I will go for drag racing.

cheers guys

 

Before doing anything else with your engine I'd consider trying to get a better fuel-tuning solution than using a switch. Having just two maps to toggle back and forth like that won't account for any time you have a blend or mix in the engine. The S300 has primitive flex fuel settings but should be able to accomodate that, otherwise if needed I'd put money into a standalone EMS like a Fueltech, Haltech, Link or AEM first.

As far as whether you should go higher compression or turbo, or what you should do with your gear ratios, is very subjective and circumstantial to what you want out of the car and what kind of driving you'll be doing.

You already have a great engine so if I were you I'd run it as-is for now, and decide later if you want to change anything. 11.5:1 on a GTX3584 would get extremely rowdy very quick, tuning and good fuel would be critical to keep the engine alive. Your cams also wouldn't be ideal for turbo, it'd be a completely different beast going from your NA oriented setup now to turbo.

A supercharger would compliment your current build perfectly if you still wanted more power, but I'm not sure what options are available for an H22. Once you get to the 350-400WHP mark that B16B trans will likely start to feel too short.

 

Currently I'm using a standalone Haltech Elite 1500 bro. The switches is for change the haltech maps that has been tuned. before I start up the engine when the ignition is on I choose the switch first then after that start the engine and you will be running with the maps that chosen from the switch. maybe I will try with flex fuel later on. does 12 or 12.5 compression still can be used for daily ?

 

Yes, 12:1 or 12.5:1 can still be used on the street with good fuel and a proper tune. 93 octane or E85 will suffice.

I would strongly encourage you to work on getting a flex fuel set up and eliminating the switch, the Haltech should be very capable to accomplish that. If you're running ethanol I'd assume/hope that you already have E85 compatible lines, in which case I think all you'd have to add is a flex fuel sensor and wire it in.

 

Thanks for the advice bro. I will buy the haltech flex fuel after this. Do you know what's the best vp's for maybe M5 or C16 or Q16 ? and how about the vtec killer does it works good in rolling race ?

 

Hi everyone

What's the best air intake size for h2b all motor. Does 3,5inch velocity stacks better than 3 inch ? or 3,5 inch is to big.
Does the intake manifold spacer makes a lot different ? or Max port stock manifold is enough

cheers