You Will NOT Believe This: Tranny Issues
OK, as you know, my car went dead last wednesday at the track. well, had it towed to my buddys place today, and yanked the tranny. thought it might have been a spring that had broken free from the clutch disc, or the actual disc shattered. this is an ACT street disc on an ACT xtreme PP, and a lightened fidanza aluminum flywheel.
To my surprise and my friends' suprise, the flywheel bolts to the crank had backed out for the 3rd time. THis is the 3rd time on the same crank. the first time the bolts backed out of a stock flywheel and crank from the factory. no one knows how this happened. the second time, no locktite, and the bolts backed out of the aluminum flywheel. well we globbed tons of locktite all over the bolts and put em back in and torqued to honda specs. pulled the tranny tonite, and almost all of the flywheel bolts were hand tight, but difficult to take out because of the locktite.
Now the question is, Is there a problem with the crank? Also, what torque specs should the flywheel bolts be torqued to for an aluminum flywheel? we are gonna put some super titanium epoxy in there this time with a stock flywheel.
Anyone have any ideas on what to do? Anyone know what may have happened??
Also, the Fidanza aluminum flywheel is for sale for h22 motor for $240.
thanks guys
To my surprise and my friends' suprise, the flywheel bolts to the crank had backed out for the 3rd time. THis is the 3rd time on the same crank. the first time the bolts backed out of a stock flywheel and crank from the factory. no one knows how this happened. the second time, no locktite, and the bolts backed out of the aluminum flywheel. well we globbed tons of locktite all over the bolts and put em back in and torqued to honda specs. pulled the tranny tonite, and almost all of the flywheel bolts were hand tight, but difficult to take out because of the locktite.
Now the question is, Is there a problem with the crank? Also, what torque specs should the flywheel bolts be torqued to for an aluminum flywheel? we are gonna put some super titanium epoxy in there this time with a stock flywheel.
Anyone have any ideas on what to do? Anyone know what may have happened??
Also, the Fidanza aluminum flywheel is for sale for h22 motor for $240.
thanks guys
use the red threadlocker
or that stuff that the honda dealer uses on the crank pulley its some copper based adhesive thread lock.....
or that stuff that the honda dealer uses on the crank pulley its some copper based adhesive thread lock.....
Also, the Fidanza aluminum flywheel is for sale for h22 motor for $240.
Who is selling them for $240?
Who is selling them for $240?
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Maybe there is some grease on the inside of the crank threads that the thread lock on the bolts can't bond to. Maybe clean in there real good with degreaser, alcohol and q-tips? Clean the flywheel bolts real well too.
Only a few people are having flywheel problems, but it's always 'cause they didn't use thread lock.
Only a few people are having flywheel problems, but it's always 'cause they didn't use thread lock.
This is just a possibility... Are you running a balnce shaft belt or not? IMHO this sounds like it may be due to a harmonics issue. It is also possible that your crank may need to be balanced. Have you ever had the engine apart? I would be curious as well to see what condition your main bearings are in. I just recieved a H22a that the flywheel actually came off of the crank (supposedly while the car was going 130mph) This was a stock engine but it had a lightened (factory) flywheel. I personally haven't had any issues of this sort and I don't run a balance shaft I have a lightened (stock) flywheel and Crank pulley. MY Crankshaft is balanced however. It is also possible that the flywheel could need to be balanced as well or the clutch assembly has issues. Sorry for rambeling on here, but I would look closely at all of the rotating parts and see if there is a balance issue. check the pressure plate as well if the disk is not centered in the housing it will cause a vibration and this could be the cause. I have had an ACT pressure plate do this before.
[Modified by 2point6, 6:41 PM 6/11/2002]
[Modified by 2point6, 6:41 PM 6/11/2002]
I can get these for $275+ shipping new. any interest?
I think you are right on the money with this one.. It would seem that something is not right in your assembly causing the bolts to shake themselves loose over time.. And you being at the drag strip doing high RPM drops is probably not helping the issue at all.. Before you sell your flywheel have someone check all your shaft components to make sure they are within spec.. Otherwise it will keep on happening and probably next time it will damage something worthy...
the first time i encoutered the problem was with a stock flywheel and stock cranks. everythis was stock with nothing ever been changed, and the flywheel bolts backed out. my friend thinks that maybe the cranks was not up to sceps when oringinally made. like the bit used to thread the crank was worn and in turn made the threading inside the crank crappy. that would account for why the bolts backed out originally.
we think that the bolts keep backing out now is because the flywheel is aluminum, and when it heats up to high temps, the aluminum compresses, unlike the tosck cast iron flywheel which expands. once the flywheel begins to compress, the clearance between the the flywheel and flywheel bolts increases. with the flywheel spinning counter clockwise, and the clearance in there, it bangs against the bolts and makes them back out. just the theory we came up with. if you guys have any other ideas, id like to hear.
got the zex n2o kit for sale with purge kit also.
we think that the bolts keep backing out now is because the flywheel is aluminum, and when it heats up to high temps, the aluminum compresses, unlike the tosck cast iron flywheel which expands. once the flywheel begins to compress, the clearance between the the flywheel and flywheel bolts increases. with the flywheel spinning counter clockwise, and the clearance in there, it bangs against the bolts and makes them back out. just the theory we came up with. if you guys have any other ideas, id like to hear.
got the zex n2o kit for sale with purge kit also.
Maybe im misunderstanding your wording, but do you mean a light Fidanza flywheel, like 10lbs, or as you said "lightened" Fidanza flywheel, was it lightened further? It maybe be out of balance now if thats in fact what you meant.
How much for those H&R race springs? email me at cashjw00@aol.com and let me know what else you got for sale
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(3) Power mirror control box ($70 shipped)
(4) Truck latch $30
(5) Power steering assembly from lude (Make offer)
(6) 91 Gauge cluster Manual $90
(7) Front and rear seats (tan/beige in color) Make offer
(8) 92 Civic Shift linkage
(9) H&R Race Springs for 90 - 97 Accord ($150 shipped)
(11) Slotted rotors for the front already attached to spindle and
pre-pressed to hub ($150)
(12) 2 front Civic axles ($100 plus shipping)
(13) 2 front Accord axles ($100 plus shipping)
(14) 91 Accord ECU EX manual ($150)
(15) 93 Civic ECU PO5 ($150)
(16) Motorala V-tech phone. (Mci or Verizon w/ chargers) $100
This is not a joke and no lowballing please... Serious buyers only. I need to clean up my room immediately..
jdjoseph2000@hotmail.com
Hmmn that I dont know you would probably have to ask around. They are coming off my 91 Accord EX. I know that most suspensions from 90-97 are transferrable but I am not complete sure if the axles are.. But when you find out then just let me know.
(2) 2.25 Test pipe for 91 Accord ($50 shipped)
That is great.. I bought my for $40 +shipping and was never used. But since you got a good deal then you wouldnt mind spreading the information so more people can benefit..
not to rain on your parade...but I bought my test pipe on ebay for about $20...with all the hardware needed to install it
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