Which axel goes on which side. I have to chage the inner CV for my intermediate shaft. It needs a fully splined CV to seat fully. These are Rebuilt '93 Teg axels one is 1 inch longer than the other. one seems to short on the passenger side and when I put it on the drivers side the inner CV joint pulled apart when the steering was turned ful lock. I know this is a no brainer for those of you who did this already but either way I go it seems like it isn't going to work.


[Modified by virginia_dude, 9:51 PM 6/10/2002]


[Modified by virginia_dude, 9:52 PM 6/10/2002]

 

OK I figured out that part once I pulled both axels out. Drivers axel has full spline the Passenger doesn't. Now heres a new problem, Went about 2 miles made a hard left U turn and did a job on the drivers side inner CV Joint. THink it may have seperated and made one extra turn due to the twist in the CV Boot, in any case certainly damaged it. Was real easy on the gas or would have really mad a mess.. Any one else have this problem using '93 integra axels on a ZC engine/Tranny combo in a '89 EF Hatch (DX). Seems like the Drivers axel may be like 1 or 2 inches too short.

 

without seeing your car, i couldn't say - I've got the exact same setup & haven't had any problems. you are using a zc intermediate shaft, right?

assuming you bought your axles from a good dealer, they're warrantied, so take it back & try again....

Eric

 

I am using the ZC intermediate shaft. I know for a fact that is is since I saw the importer pull the combo off of a DOHC ZC engine for me when I was there watching. I got the Axels from Trak Auto and they should stand behind them. I think if the axel was just an inch or 2 longer it would be perfect. guess all the tollerances just add up on my car to put a TEG axel on the short side. May take and swap over the CV joints from a new rebuilt TEG axel to the stock civic Passenger side axel with should give me an axel 2 inches longer that has the right CV joints on it. But I lose the warranty on the axels when I do it.

 

if your axle was 2" short, you'd really have to stretch it to put the hub nut on...

you did remove the dust rings on the axles/hubs, right?

Eric

 

THe axels I got were remanufactured and had no dust rings on them. and it looks like they were in fact stretched a bit too far since when I applied a little power at full left lock under load Making a U turn in the Cul-de-sac and the joint popped and threw at least one of the bearings and twisted the boot almost 1 full turn. The drivers side inner CV joint that is. If it wasn't short then that should not have been possible to happen. and the Stock DX right axle allong side of this with the CV's compressed to full bottom was about 1-1.5 incheslonger than the TEG left AXEL was. that tells me if I put both TEG CV's on the DX axel I will have an axel about 1 inch longer than the TEG whick should be a perfect fit. The CV's are idendtcal in length with the only difference being the spline size and the fact the Left TEG axel is fully splined and the Right DX isn't just like the right TEG axel. Outer CV's are identical. Funny how this dosen't work on mine but has worked for lots of other people. and I don't belive the difference is 2" either. More like half that. A 2" longer axel would probibly bind when the suspension is at the point where the CV's and axels are parallel or in a straight line. Oh and incidently I do have a 2inch drop on the car but no camber kit yet, with the camber kit it would even pull the axel out further since it tips upper ball joint further outboard than it is now. Oh and the stock DX axels had no dust rings either that I noticed at least. but that would have the effect of stretching an already short axel even further.



[Modified by virginia_dude, 11:12 AM 6/11/2002]


[Modified by virginia_dude, 11:14 AM 6/11/2002]

 

hey VA dude, I met a little hottie from your town last weekend in wilmington, NC but anyways down to business......I had JDM 1 gen b16 axles in my car, they came from a 90-91 model integra....i was doing some reading and found that the closest axle to that JDM size is the 88-89 integra mated with the 88-89 intermediate shaft....might wanna look into that...also if you know a little PR girl named bernice tell her a dood on honda tech said what up

 

i guess all i can do at this point is wish you luck. i will say that the older teg intermediate shafts don't work - the bolt pattern to the block is different.

Eric

 

Well to my best knowledge with the ZC you HAVE to have a ZC intermediate shaft. I remember some people saying the mounts in the block are different. But haven't confirmed that for myself. I got $160 into these 2 rebuilt axels and I hope the hell they are going to work or be made to work. since they've been on and off the car 3 times already I know they aren't taking them back. As far as the lttle PR girl I don't know her, but from how she sounds, I would like to. I've heard that people had length issues with the right axel not the left one, I have issues with the left one not the right one. I guess maybe my engine sets further right than what is normal with most cars. Can't figure out why, mounts are all stock.

 

i (JDMBOLONI) have a zc trans right now with a sohc vtec and i used a stock 90-93 teg axle for the drivers side and a 88-00 civic drivers side axle for the passenger side with the 90-93 teg inner so it would fit in the intermediate shaft

 

I assume you mean stock Passenger side DX axle with the Integra inner CV joint, the passenger side axle is about a foot too long to use for that. If my new '93 axle gets here and is the same length as the one that just broke I'm going to swap the new CV's onto my original civic right axel and put it on the drivers side, thats what is too short on mine, and the stock DX passenger axel appears to be about an inch longer than the stock Drivers '93 TEG axle. the Stock '93 TEG axle fit the passenger side all right. its the stock '93 TEG drivers axle that popped a bearing and self destructed because its too short.


[Modified by virginia_dude, 8:20 PM 6/11/2002]

 

"Aight, I had the same problem with the left side. After the tranny swap I used the ZC intermediate shaft, the stock Si passenger side axle with a 88-89 Teg inner CV joint. For the right side I used a 90-93 Teg axle. No problem there. I've tried the 90 Teg axles and the 88-89 Teg axles and had problemson the left side. The combination I mentioned above is the only one that worked for me. Good luck!

 

Well I still have the stock Right axel but will have to turn something in for a Core. If the replacement Teg axels is shorter like I know its going to be I'm going to swap both New CV joints onto the /stock rightside DX axel put those old CV's onto the TEG axel and turn that in for a core. I thought that should work better because that assy looked to be a better fit since the TEG is shorter by about an inch and thats why I popped an inner CV joint and trashed it. The replacement TEG axel should be in tonight or tomorrow at the latest. And Ill size things up then. I'll get a fresh axel that way but will trash the warranty on the axel by doing that.

 

I was told that 90-93 teg axles would work on both sides with no problems.
?? ??

Here's what I did though...

Used 2 passenger side axles from a 91 SI/DX. My ZC engine came with the inner ZC CV's connected to the tranny. I took off the inner SI/DX CV's and just put on the ZC CV's. Both axles are now equal length, and I havn't had any problems.

I just hope I can figure something out for my goal of 350-400HP.

 

I guess it is marginal that they work and it all depends on the tolerances of exactly how your motor mounts in you car, I guess mine is further to the right than average even though the mounts are factory stock. that makes my right TEG axel fit better than usual and the left one end up being short. My ZC inner CV had some water contamination so didn't attempt to reuse them. I will be replacing BOTH CV joints off the remanufactured TEG axel I got and put them on the Righ side DX axle shaft. The outter CV from that feels loose but wasn't making noise yet. So no way would I reuse it when I have two rebuilt ones. If it have trouble with the right side I'll get another right axel from somewhere and do the same thing. Will swap over the CV's tonight and put them on the car tomorrow since its raining again today and I got my replacement axle last night. Just need to get new bands for the new boots since I have to pop those off to swap.

 

Damnit man...You need to send some of that rain over here to Colorado!!

Our Hayman fire is still at 100,000+ acre's and their expecting to take ALL SUMMER to get the thing under control. Horrible.

 

I know I see the news, would send you some rain if I could. Got my replacement axel in and it was an inch longer than the last one was. Its the same length as the right side DX axel. Which means they must have sold me an incorrect one before. Since now they are both exactly the same size. And this works perfectly finally. And NO MORE TORQUE STEER! A real plus.


[Modified by virginia_dude, 9:15 PM 6/16/2002]

 

Just for clearity...

What exact axles/CV's are you using again?

 

quote"Well I still have the stock Right axel but will have to turn something in for a Core. "

quote"they must have sold me the incorrect one before"


maybe the guy that turned in the core that they made the remanufactured one from turned in a d=series axle instead of a b-series core


[Modified by seekerONE, 2:28 AM 6/17/2002]

 

Right now I am running stock "93 Integra axels, Non ABS types both sides unmollested. WHen I bought both sides originaly the drivers side was an inch shorter than the passengers, never thought anything of it. Till it shredded the innner CV making a U turn. Took it back and said it broke after 2 miles. Took 3 days to get the replacement. Compared it to the right side DX axel and noticed this one was EXACTLY the same length. THe last one was an inch shorter. So I popped it on as-is. Last one was an inch shorter than this one. Both were supposed to be '93 integra. Have to stop by the junkyard and grab something to turn in for a core for the other side. Had a $50 core on each axel. AND they carry a lifetime warranty. $78 each side. I don't want to have to worry about these ever again. I am sick and tired of yanking the trans out, this was 4 times. But this ZC Trans works sweet, and no torque steer. If the Si final I have is in spec might make a ZC Hybrid but that remains to be seen.


[Modified by virginia_dude, 10:31 PM 6/16/2002]

 

Well for a visual side by side compairison they tehey are EXACTLY the same length, but the shaft is thicker in the TEG. and the CV and bearins will swap but why. Since this is the right size after all. You have to remember this is the first set of TEG axels I have ever laid eyes on and it never occured to me they should have been EXACTLY the same length. THe fact one was slightly shorter should have told me something but a week ago I didn't know better.

 

make sure they didnt give you integra axles with ABS becuz thats what they did to me and they didnt even come close to fitting so i had to take em back

 

Well what happened was the Passengerside was a perfect fit. And the drivers side was about an inch too short. I had the inner cv have one on the bearings in the cup pull out too far and make a mess out of the joint. First time I made a hard left under power. It worked on the jackstand but not lowered to the ground. That axel was 1 inch shorter than the passenger axel. Took it back and said this was bad and they got me a new one. That one was 1 inch longer than the old one and exactly the same length as the passenger side. The CV cups inner and outer were the right length and size on both of them so I know it wasn't an older TEG axel because I was told they have a shorter cup. Maybe it was an ABS axel. I don't know what the differences were between them. All I know is what I have this time fits good. I like this ZC Tranny. No torque steer I had to deal with with the Si Transmissions I had before.

 

glad to hear that everything worked out. also its good to know that the 90-93 teg axles do work and the place you bought them from just messed up!