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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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will a stock p28 run a h22 ok, sorry im new to the dual cam thing.. im used to my sohcs lol. this is prolly a dumb question but i couldn't find the answer when i searched.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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stock p28,no.

p28 w/ hondata, yes
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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it will run it yes, safely.....no.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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i have a p28 with an h22 base map and i'm running good
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93lxh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a p28 with an h22 base map and i'm running good </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats horrible advice.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:56 AM
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how is that horrible advice? i got the ecu for http://www.phearable.net my car has been runing good for the pass 1yr
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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He means that there's no such thing as an "H22 basemap" with a p28. The only thing extracted from the stock p13 code has been the ignition tables. The fuel tables work differently on the p13, so those have to be created by modifying the existing p28 fuel tables. I wouldn't trust someone else's basemap unless I could verify it with a wideband.

Edit: To answer the original question, no a stock p28 map will not work. It is way too lean for the H22.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93lxh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how is that horrible advice? i got the ecu for http://www.phearable.net my car has been runing good for the pass 1yr</TD></TR></TABLE>

because chipped ecu's are pieces of ****.

i dont understand why people go the p28/p72 route if they arent going to get tuned.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

because chipped ecu's are pieces of ****.

i dont understand why people go the p28/p72 route if they arent going to get tuned.</TD></TR></TABLE>

because, modded is always better than stock, even when its not.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

because, modded is always better than stock, even when its not. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lmao, aint that the truth
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats horrible advice. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on the basemap, really. Some work fine, some are ebay type ROMs that have no rev limit, too much fuel and too much timing. Have you seen the A/F curve from a stock H22 on a P13 ECU?

My opinion: H22 with stock P28 = bad. H22 with P28 and H22 basemap = could be fine, but tuning would probably be better.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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The P28 will not control the butterflys in the intake manifold on the h22 unlike the factory P13, im running a P28 on S300 tuned but also with Skunk2 IM, it runs great.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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I think that is probably much better to run a stock p72 instead of a p28. At least the p72 is meant for a dohc vtec motor.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Depends on the basemap, really. Some work fine, some are ebay type ROMs that have no rev limit, too much fuel and too much timing. Have you seen the A/F curve from a stock H22 on a P13 ECU?

My opinion: H22 with stock P28 = bad. H22 with P28 and H22 basemap = could be fine, but tuning would probably be better. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, but most people who buy these things dont have the ability to pull the map up and look at it, much less decipher what everything means to determine if it is good or not.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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theres a reason they call it a base map and not a "go drive it around for 2 years" map

because it's a just a starting point(base) to get you going so you can tune the car.

I'm sorry but I personally wouldn't trust an online company to "tune" a map for my car without actually you know.... having my car to tune the map with =P

think about it this way if a stock p28 ran the H22 fine, wouldn't honda just use that as the stock ecu, why waste time and money on fuel tuning and creating a whole new ECU if one you already have would run the engine perfectly fine?
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Default Re: stock p28 run a h22 ok? (IA95civicDX)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IA95civicDX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will a stock p28 run a h22 ok, sorry im new to the dual cam thing.. im used to my sohcs lol. this is prolly a dumb question but i couldn't find the answer when i searched.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you playing on racing? If not just get a P13.
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