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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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ok so of corse i have a d16z6 all stock and was wondering how far can i push this thing as in RPMs whats my best shift point?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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well theres not really a best shift point cause its a D lol just kiddin, but yea anyways i used to push mine to like 7200....u couldnt blow that thing up if u tried man...
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Your motor stops making power at 6600 ... so that's a pretty decent point to shift. Anything above that is wasted road.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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id say around 7000 rpm , so you can stay in your power band.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jimbrown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id say around 7000 rpm , so you can stay in your power band.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So 400 above when you stop making power is your power band?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So 400 above when you stop making power is your power band? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You have to take into consideration that once you shift, the RPMs will drop down from where peak power is generated, and so you're essentially climbing back up the curve again. What you want to do is shift at a point that balances the drop-off in power past the peak with the drop-off in power before the peak. In most cases, that would be at/near redline.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You have to take into consideration that once you shift, the RPMs will drop down from where peak power is generated, and so you're essentially climbing back up the curve again. What you want to do is shift at a point that balances the drop-off in power past the peak with the drop-off in power before the peak. In most cases, that would be at/near redline. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've always gotten better times and response shifting just above peak than shifting just below redline. Granted, I never raked out my SOHC, so it may be a little different due to the difference in torque.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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with a AEM CAI, shift at 7000 on factory tach, which is about 6700 rpms on a correct tach.

14.85 stock Z6 with IHE.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mista Bone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with a AEM CAI, shift at 7000 on factory tach, which is about 6700 rpms on a correct tach.

14.85 stock Z6 with IHE.</TD></TR></TABLE>


i would really like to see the slip of the 14.85 run in your z6
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thechamp2633 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would really like to see the slip of the 14.85 run in your z6</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't doubt him.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Me neither. He played around with a lot of different d-series parts and good after market parts.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thechamp2633 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


i would really like to see the slip of the 14.85 run in your z6</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL. Don't question that man. He's a legend around here. Just a friendly tip.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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dang ..what do you think is possible with a stock b7...like nothing more than a few cheap bolt ons?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Man, don't shift past 6.7k or ur wasting ur time.

Hrm, but it doesn't matter much anywayz, OEM tach blows for accuracy .
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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haha i know what you mean,... thats with my 30 extra horsepower stickers and wing
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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my z6 runs out to 7800 right now, ecu's not chipped so i dont really know why it does but it does.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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sorry, not one timeslip, but two withing 10 minutes of each other.

Yeah, I was out of practice on the tree, happens.

Wanna bracket race?

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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I say keep your rpms low unless the motor is built and you are running it at the track. I drive between 65-70 on the freeway and shift between 3-3.5k and I just filled up today and got 35+ mpg out of my D16z6 with I/H/E in a coupe.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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I got a jdm d15b and I shift at 7600 rpm and makes power altheway throughtout the rpm range. But I am boosted to.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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I shift my y8 at 7500 all stock I/H/E
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mista Bone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry, not one timeslip, but two withing 10 minutes of each other.

Yeah, I was out of practice on the tree, happens.

Wanna bracket race?

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actually i would bracket race you i just won my first bracket race a week ago for my second time at the tracdk won the sport compact/import with my 16 second civic im not doubting the time im just wondering how you could do it with just an i/h/e with the z6
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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thanks for all the help guys and when i save up the cash to build up the inside of my motor ie cams, pistons, the whole bit what should i get with keeping my car street legal
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aralliius &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for all the help guys and when i save up the cash to build up the inside of my motor ie cams, pistons, the whole bit what should i get with keeping my car street legal</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Save your money kid. Turboing a car shouldn't be a priority for someone who's JUST now learning how to drive. if I were you I would wait until you're 18 or so to do this. Once you move off to college you'll have wished to hadn't tried to impress anyone in your high school with your honda.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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lol your funny

1: anything i do to my car is for me no one else
2: i mean like the internals of my engine not a turbo and **** that i ant doing for a long time loli should have specified &gt;&lt;
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