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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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hey guys i decided to go with some memphis speakers in my civic. i have some 6.5 3-ways for the rear. for the front, i was going to order a component set but the dealer told me to just buy the tweeters and then buy the 3 way 6.5's for the doors and just run those. i have the crossover that came with the tweeters and the outputs are for the high pass and low pass. since the speaker is not just a mid, should i still hook up that low pass output? or should i just split the main wire into two before that crossover and leave it like that? thanks
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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make and model of the speakers
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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memphis 15-pr52 3way power reference coaxials. the tweeters are the power reference ones shown in the component set-up, the 15-PRI
http://www.memphiscaraudio.com > products > speakers
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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The dealer is so wrong, it hurts.

Go with your first instincts, get a set of components for the front, even a good set of "point source".

You really do not need speakers in the rear, but if you do install some do not use tweeters, a set of mid-range/mid-bass drivers is all I would recommend for the rear, and if you use a 4ch amp, bridge the 2 rear channels into mono, wire the rear speakers in series, [8 ohm load] and connect them to the amp that way. 94
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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jesus christ thats some bad advice from the dealer. go with a component set. I can't see any reason to mix 3ways with a tweeter added on unless you like your highs to be horribly overpowering and unrealistic.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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damn that sucks i already bought them. i didnt like the idea of it but figured he knew more than me so i just went with it. if i hook these ones up while i wait for the mids to come in, how should i wire them? thanks for all the help too

edit: i think he just wanted to sell me them so he wouldnt have to order the right thing
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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should i just re-sell mine and order the m-class ones?
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Yes sell all the speakers you have and get a good set of components for the front. use the stock speakers for the rear, for now. 94
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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well the reason i bought the memphis rears was because i have a 93 cx hatch and it didnt even come with rears. i dont mind keeping those in the back(doesnt hurt anything right?) and then just selling the fronts and possibly getting the dealer to take back the tweeters since i havent messed with them. then just ordering the m-class components
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alex_s817 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the reason i bought the memphis rears was because i have a 93 cx hatch and it didnt even come with rears. i dont mind keeping those in the back(doesnt hurt anything right?) and then just selling the fronts and possibly getting the dealer to take back the tweeters since i havent messed with them. then just ordering the m-class components</TD></TR></TABLE> That will work, just disable the tweeter in the rear speakers.
The dumb-*** salesman should take the tweeters back, it was shitty advice he gave, and your right, it was probably "SWAT" [sell what's available today] 94
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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sorry but why disable the tweeters in the rear speakers? right now i have the rears hooked up and i have some crappy walmart pioneers in the front. it sounds much better in the rear than the front, and overall i like having some sound behind me. the components are ordered and should be here sometime this week hopefully. also im considering buying a 4 channel amp to run these, any suggestions on how to set it up? thanks a lot
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alex_s817 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont mind keeping those in the back(doesnt hurt anything right?)</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually having rears will hurt your imaging. the best thing to do is put all your money and efforts into the front stage and start with a good component set. after that you can work on amps and subs etc.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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really i didnt know that. im not looking for a crazy system, just something of an upgrade from what i had. i ordered the memphis m-class 6.5 components, and i currently have an ma audio 10 inch subwoofer that sounds pretty decent in my opinion
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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As mentioned, you do not need rear speakers at all, but if you want rears disable the tweeters, because high frequencies are very "directional" they will make it very hard if not impossible to get a good front stage and any kind of descent imaging.
High frequencies from behind you will lower and move the sound stage back, and result in a symptom we call left/right bias, the music will sound like it is coming from the left and right speakers, not from up in front of you.
Disabling the tweeters will alleviate this symptom to some extent, ideally you would wire the rear speakers in series, [8 ohm load] and connect them to a bridged or mono amp. 94
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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ok thanks a lot for your help
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