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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Hi guys, I have a skunk 2 single bend short shifter and ive been having a problem with shifting into 3rd gear alot. Just b4 I bought the skunk 2, i had a B&M dual bend. I changed the shifters because i thought maybe my bushing were shot and just bought a whole new shifter. It grinds every single time past 35mph with both of the shifters. I have a fake ITR ***. Could I be grinding because of how light the *** is? I grind going into 2nd gear as well when i shift hard sometimes. Any ideas? please help!
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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your **** has nothing to do with your gears grinding. Your synchros are most likely worn. Do you drive the car hard often?

Try changing your fluid....this most likely will NOT fix the problem though.

If your synchros are shot, your best bet might be to get another used trans. Since your name is DA 4 LYFE, im guessing its a DA. Get a DA GSR or B16 cable trans. Awesome gearing.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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short shifters ruin transmissions.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alexisthemovie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">short shifters ruin transmissions.</TD></TR></TABLE>


??? go on....
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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the design of the transmission synchros only allow certain amount of time to change gear. by changing a short shifter without changing your shifting style(banging thru gear like you are using stock shifter) will damage your transmission.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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oops i meant they can ruin transmissions, but it has to be coupled with a "bad" driver too. some people shift hard and try to beat the synchros but just end up grinding. a short shifter makes it a lot easier to shift faster than the synchros want to.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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its the syncros my dc2 has the same problem when im mashing on it from 2nd to third if i throw it hard it'll grind but if i take my time it wont its just syncros going out u could get new syncros and get em replaced or like that one dude said and buy a DA gsr tranny or a b16 tranny there cool or if its a ls or a rs just get stock tranny should only be like 300 bucks for a rebuilt tranny to buy one
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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is there any way i can just get my gears changed to a GS-R gears if i have my tranny rebuilt? I have a stage 2 clutch and don't really want to be riding on a stock clutch again.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Please get a stock shifter! Short shifter dont do **** but screw ur trans!
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Short shifters don't ruin transmissions, bad drivers do. I have 80K miles on my B&M short shifter with zero problems, and the tranny has over 304K miles. So much for your theory.

To the OP, try adjusting your clutch cable, swapping in fresh Honda MTF, and paying more attention to your shifting habits. Some people swear GM or Pennzoil syncromesh MTF will help grinding transmissions, so do some research and decide for yourself.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA 4 Lyfe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there any way i can just get my gears changed to a GS-R gears if i have my tranny rebuilt? I have a stage 2 clutch and don't really want to be riding on a stock clutch again. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well then change your clutch when you change the trans. The exedy stage1 is an AWESOME clutch for lightly modded cars. Great pedal feel/modulation, and almost stock like pedal pressure.

It might be more cost effective to get a new trans all together instead of a rebuild. Also, you have the peace of mind knowing that it was put together by Honda. Used GSR DA transmissions are probably pretty cheap at places like hmotorsonline or whatever other motor place.

Go easy on the next trans
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Do you guys think that is deff. my synchros? i really cant stanf the constant grind in 3rd. its getting worse in 2nd as well.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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if its getting worse, than yes. its most likeoy your synchros. Why not just buy a good condiition used gsr transmission and not even mess with a rebuild? usually rebuilds will cost more.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Do any of you know a website that sells used or new GSR trannys? and would i be able to keep my stage 2 clutch that im using with my tranny now?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Do you guys think that my shift linkage would have anything to do with my grinding?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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it could be that the pattern is so worn out, you're not getting it into gear correctly, but grinding is mostly the synchros.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA 4 Lyfe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do any of you know a website that sells used or new GSR trannys? and would i be able to keep my stage 2 clutch that im using with my tranny now?</TD></TR></TABLE>

only place to get a brand new tranny is the dealer. for a used one look in h-t market or ebay.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alexisthemovie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it could be that the pattern is so worn out, you're not getting it into gear correctly, but grinding is mostly the synchros.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what's a "worn out shift pattern"? either the sychros are bad or they're not.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA 4 Lyfe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you guys think that my shift linkage would have anything to do with my grinding?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if it's bent then it'd definitely affect the shifting and could make you grind gears. i wouldn't get another tranny (unless you get brand new), you never know what condition the tranny is that you're getting. it's better to just get new synchros and know that they're new.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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its true short shifter kinda mess up trans. but i have a short shifter in my gsr and it never grinds even when i shift hard so it must be how good a driver you r as well i think it depends on what type and brand of shifter you get
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCgarage919 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its true short shifter kinda mess up trans. but i have a short shifter in my gsr and it never grinds even when i shift hard so it must be how good a driver you r as well i think it depends on what type and brand of shifter you get</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, it's not true at all. how exactly would a short shifter mess up your tranny? people mess up their trannies with short shifters because they shift too fast and don't give the rpm time to drop like they would with a regular shifter or they don't press the clutch in in time cuz they're not used to the shorter throw. it has nothing to do with shifter brand. a shifter is a shifter.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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It cant be my shifter. i've had the same problems with a B&M dual bent, and now a skunk 2 single bend. The react to the grinding the same way..
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