OK guys, Right now i have a h22 tranny but i was seeing if anyone every had any luck with the f22 f23 maybe longer gears? looking for longer gears with out killing the cars power then . I wont have to shift so much? iam doing the 4 to 5 shift as i go over the last trap 1/4 at 130mph just trying to get in the 10. with what i have now.

Thanks

 

I was trapping about 105 in my boosted h23 with f22 tranny and i was still in 3rd gear.


Modified by preludestud11 at 6:45 PM 6/19/2007

 

IMO H23 tranny would be your best bet. I trapped 138 in 4th still under 8k on a 24.5" slick

 

cool thx yea thats is the size iam running also what power and time you getting out of your?

 

I cant wait to get a built h23 tranny long gears FTW!

 

so the h23 tranny is tried and true...but what about the euro r?? close ratios means faster acceleration but i don't know of anyone with a lot of power running one..does anyone???

 

You dont want close gearing for boost setups. Long gears alow you to stay in boost longer. For n/a setups its good cuz it will help you stay in vtak lol.

 

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depends if you want a fast highway car or a car thats fast in the 1/4. Long *** gears blow for the 1/4. Think about it, with long *** gears you are leaving that much boost when you shift but with shorter gears your gonna be closer to full spool upon shifting. Think and/or elaborate before posting.

 

Thats why they have drag cars with only 2 gears right? Maybe md23vtec should use shorter gears right? maybe an h22 tranny would do him better

 

it depends on the application. You dont need to run a longer gear tranny to Keep you in boost longer. You will only need a longer tranny if your toppin yours out before the 1/4.

 

not to jack but ive got an h23 tranny for sale..

 

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Are you serious? How would shorter gears help him--he would need 5th then? I bank on MD23 knowing what he's doing......I mean hes only running high 10's in a full interior Prelude.
Theres not enormous difference between the H22 and H23.....nowhere near as different as an F22 and H22. The subtle differences come into play when looking for every avenue to shave time and pickup speed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delslowh23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool thx yea thats is the size iam running also what power and time you getting out of your?</TD></TR></TABLE>

24.5 on 13 or 15" wheel? Last year car made 612 on 27 PSI. Have yet to turn it up that high. on 24.5x8x15 H23 trans open diff went 11.03 @ 137 with quaife went 10.94@ 138.

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There is a such thing as too long and to short

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depends if you want a fast highway car or a car thats fast in the 1/4. Long *** gears blow for the 1/4. Think about it, with long *** gears you are leaving that much boost when you shift but with shorter gears your gonna be closer to full spool upon shifting. Think and/or elaborate before posting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your short gear theory "sounds" right but.... in the real 1/4 mile world it isn't so. There are many factors that come into play. Mainly tire diameter and power. If you have say a 450 whp prelude in (24.5 on 15 inch wheel)with an H22 trans vs an h23 trans. Due to the wheel spin your going to get from the shorter gear(H22 trans) your going to be slower with the H22 trans then the H23.

Yes in theory shorter gears allow you to reach top speed faster and give you faster acceleration but.... if your now able to put the power to the ground because of the shorter gearing causing you to blow the tires off your actually loosing ET. IMO the H23 trans is just right not to long ( like the F22 F23)

Sorry to ramble just my 2cents.

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I would love to have a 2 speed power glide I'd ramp the boost in slower and the hit it hard and have a 9 second car all day long

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Are you serious? How would shorter gears help him--he would need 5th then? I bank on MD23 knowing what he's doing......I mean hes only running high 10's in a full interior Prelude.
Theres not enormous difference between the H22 and H23.....nowhere near as different as an F22 and H22. The subtle differences come into play when looking for every avenue to shave time and pickup speed.
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I am pretty sure he was saying the same thing you are sport calm down and reread his post

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by :=:NirVTEC:=: &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you serious? How would shorter gears help him--he would need 5th then? I bank on MD23 knowing what he's doing......I mean hes only running high 10's in a full interior Prelude.
Theres not enormous difference between the H22 and H23.....nowhere near as different as an F22 and H22. The subtle differences come into play when looking for every avenue to shave time and pickup speed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol you missed the sarcasm but its cool man... you are right tho. I believe an h23 is the best tranny to get for our cars (boost app)... not too long and not to short. Thats just me tho. Some day I will have a built h23 tranny

An example, all tho not the same for every car is the 6 speed mitsu vr4's vs 5 speed vr4's. The 5speed vr4's are known to be faster cars. I dunno, maybe people should look at the power they are making, how and when they are making it to decide.

 

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24.5 on 13 or 15" wheel? Last year car made 612 on 27 PSI. Have yet to turn it up that high. on 24.5x8x15 H23 trans open diff went 11.03 @ 137 with quaife went 10.94@ 138.

There is a such thing as too long and to short

Your short gear theory "sounds" right but.... in the real 1/4 mile world it isn't so. There are many factors that come into play. Mainly tire diameter and power. If you have say a 450 whp prelude in (24.5 on 15 inch wheel)with an H22 trans vs an h23 trans. Due to the wheel spin your going to get from the shorter gear(H22 trans) your going to be slower with the H22 trans then the H23.

Yes in theory shorter gears allow you to reach top speed faster and give you faster acceleration but.... if your now able to put the power to the ground because of the shorter gearing causing you to blow the tires off your actually loosing ET. IMO the H23 trans is just right not to long ( like the F22 F23)

Sorry to ramble just my 2cents.

I would love to have a 2 speed power glide I'd ramp the boost in slower and the hit it hard and have a 9 second car all day long

I am pretty sure he was saying the same thing you are sport calm down and reread his post </TD></TR></TABLE>

have you tried an f22 tranny and turning up the boost??? if you had the powerband to match it i don't see why it wouldn't work..obviously your getting better results with more power and longer gears..if your torque is good and flat from about 4000 or 4500 and up, then you'll mak good use of the f22s ratios...i guess the problem is making a high hp h series with a powerband from 4000-8000rpm. you probably can't do it with just a turbo. and i guess nitrous or dual charging to pick up the midrange is not an option for you.

 

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have you tried an f22 tranny and turning up the boost??? if you had the powerband to match it i don't see why it wouldn't work..obviously your getting better results with more power and longer gears..if your torque is good and flat from about 4000 or 4500 and up, then you'll mak good use of the f22s ratios...i guess the problem is making a high hp h series with a powerband from 4000-8000rpm. you probably can't do it with just a turbo. and i guess nitrous or dual charging to pick up the midrange is not an option for you.
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I have done more testing then the average person. I just say what works for me. As far as the F22 tranny goes I'll just say this again. What may sound good or looks good on paper may just be that. I am not much for woulda coulda shoulda's I Know in the "REAL WORLD" it's something totally different

 

thanks for all the info guys i guess iam going to put the h23 tranny in and see what happens right now the motor is in a street trim delslow the best time is 11.0 @130 i am just trying for that 10.9

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delslowh23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for all the info guys i guess iam going to put the h23 tranny in and see what happens right now the motor is in a street trim delslow the best time is 11.0 @130 i am just trying for that 10.9</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good luck are u on 13 inch wheel or 15's?