I have always used Honda OEM oil filters. I read a post on another site that claimed the latest iteration of the Honda oil filter is made by Honeywell (AKA Fram). There was a long discussion about how the quality of the A01 revision was superior to that of the A02, but I am not sure why. Perhaps the A02 version is the one made by Honeywell? Anyway, it appears as though shipments of each revision (A01 & A02) are still being received and sold, which leads me to believe that both are still being manufactured. I am not greatly concerned, but felt this was interesting.

A couple of queick questions:

1) My thinking is that using an oil filter other than the Honda OEM will create more/less of a pressure drop across the filter. This may not be desireable. Would using a filter other than the Honda OEM result in a change oil oil flow characteristings (i.e. pressure)?

2) Every oil filter has an internal bypass (relief) valve. It is not clear what the set point for this relief valve is on the Honda OEM filter. The EA013 model sold through Amsoil has a relief valve setting of 8-11 psig. Does anyone know what the Honda OEM filter's relief valve set point is?

 

I have asked that same question here (the psi on the valve) and got no answer...

I would say to use a better name brand filter, Mobil, WIX, Purlator, Hastings...

SMo'

 

The OEM filters are made by both Filtech and Honeywell.

Cut apart a Fram filter and a Honda filter and you will notice that they are NOTHING alike. Just because Honeywell owns fram does NOT mean that the OE filters and Fram are the same design.

Stick with a Honda filter or Mobil.

 

i just switched to using mobil 1 oil filters after my first oil change

 

Hamp oil filters, are they good?

 

I love these oil filter threads because they never end. They are like those 1950s serial movies where the hero faced certain dead at the end -- usually going off a cliff on the back of his trusty horse -- only to reappear the next week ready to save the day.

But, Mfisher, you have focused on the salient issue that others apparently haven't considered when they opt for a non-OEM filter: namely, if you increase the level of oil filtration, you inevitably restrict the flow of oil. In a by-pass oil filtration system, when pressure exceeds the flow capacity of the filter (either at start up or high RPM), oil either by-passes the filter internally or externally in order to maintain flow and adequate oil pressure in the rest of the system. If that weren't the case, you'd risk oil starvation at various points in the system. Flow and pressure obviously are important in any engine, but they are crucial in Honda motors which have incredibly tight bearing tolerances. That's one of the reasons I haven't experimented with other oil filters based (apparently) on a hunch that they are somehow better than that recommended by the engine manufacturer.

As I've said before, if it helps you sleep at night to use a non-OEM filter, go for it. In the meantime, in the "Labratory of Life" there are literally tens of thousands of Honda owners who have used and are now using Honda's <U>recommended</U> OEM oil filters. If the filters were in any way inadequate, I'm sure we would have heard of it by now, don't you think?

 

HAMP (Honda After Market Parts) are a LOWER PRICED version, about half the cost of the made in Japan BLUE filters. The HAMP filters we get in Malaysia are manufactured in Thailand.

 

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Mobile 1 all the way!! on both of my hondas all i have ever used was Mobile 1 oil and filters

 

how can oem filters be good for your honda? i mean , each engine is different and they have the same filer for all hondas basically.

 

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Here's my opinion on the topic:

Honda has gotten pretty good at what they do, right? Designing cars, engines, parts for the engines in the cars... Don't you think that there is a reason why Honda decided to use the current oil filters? I don't know about you guys, but I will stick to an engineered part designed specifically for my Honda, and use the OE filter.

FYI... Currently Honda uses only three different filters: One for the S2K, one for the Insight, and one for everything else. And they are all pretty much interchangeable, except maybe in a case where clearance would be an issue. (Insight...) Whats more is that I have heard through our dealerships parts department that the S2K filter is getting replaced by the standard one when supply has run out of the old ones. So basically in the end there will only be one filter for all Honda/Acura engines. How convenient is that?

 

How can they be good? Well ... they are built with cost in mind but the priority is QCD basis. When I used to work at Honda the process for testing tyres which were already available from vendors took 6 months. 4 months by Honda R&D in Japan, Tochigi proving grounds, etc., and 2 months at the country the tyres were to be used on, using the Civic/Accord whatever. These were for tyres purchased in the country where the cars were to be sold, which differed from the make/model of tyre originally specified by Honda R&D.

QCD means Quality, Cost, Delivery (Logistics), and in that order. Q always comes first. Furthermore the warranty concerns, lawsuit concerns, etc. mean that Honda's OE filters are reasonably good. Check out internet oil filter reviews. There are people chopping up oil filters and looking inside. I dare say original made in japan toyo roki BLUE filters are good. Just remember to change oil and filter regularly.

You could also buy MUGEN filters ... GREEN ones I believe but they are pricey.

 

I use K&N for my Oil Filter.

 

good stuff

http://minimopar.knizefamily.n....html

 

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dito x2 but is it any good/ best over the counter @ autozone?