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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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hey well i was thinkin if i got an f22a1 which has 140hp and i add from tas parts
intake manifold
throttle body
intake short ram
megan headers
apexi exhaust
down pipe
igintion kit from msd
pulleys
new camshafts also from tas
and an ecu

i could make 200 hp what you guys think
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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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and rc injectors porbly 400cc
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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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maybe but i doubt it and i would use dc sport header since you want the most na hp but just spend that cash on a swap or turbo
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Old May 27, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i could make 200 hp what you guys think</TD></TR></TABLE>

i highly doubt you would see more then 160hp

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">downpipe</TD></TR></TABLE>

what? i didnt think you needed a down pipe unless you have a turbo.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and rc injectors porbly 400cc</TD></TR></TABLE>

injectors wouldnt help hp numbers unless you were running boost.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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F22 motors love boost !! I would spend the money on a turbo kit . The others are pointless if you want to see 200hp .
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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yeah but 8 psi and then put in pistons and vlaves and canshaft hopefully thats safe.right it'll give me the power but saftey of that power.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah but 8 psi and then put in pistons and vlaves and canshaft hopefully thats safe.right it'll give me the power but saftey of that power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In engrish preese?
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Old May 27, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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uhhh, why would you need valves and a camshaft to achieve 200hp . Turbo will get you over that alone . You wont need pistons on 8psi from a t3t4. Stock valves will hold quite a bit before melting. Stock camshaft works great also . Unless you need the camshaft I wouldnt replace it, Get the turbo working then worry about the smaller things later.

Now if you were trying to achieve 300+ hp. Then I would say , go ahead and get the sleeves,pistons,rods,valves,springs,ect.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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yeah but dude that engine is weak
plus i would sleeve and canshaft for better lift i don't have the vetec
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Old May 27, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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200HP? I think not. Most of those are at least bolt on. this is what I think you'll maybe get out of these products. My opinion...

intake manifold-(port and polish?) 1-2HP?
throttle body-1-3HP????
intake short ram ~5-6
megan headers- ~3-4
apexi exhaust ~2
down pipe ~1-2
igintion kit from msd=Not sure
pulleys~2
new camshafts also from tas~no sure but not that much
and an ecu ~As in? What? HONDATA?

Lets add the most. 21 HP? Not bad I guess. But if you want to achieve 200HP without all these expensive parts, turbo is your deal. I love N/A. Some of these I might overdid the HP #'s. My guess, you'll make 165HP. The highest I think is 177HP??? =P Or you can H22 swap it. You get to work with DOHC and it's more worth it.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah but dude that engine is weak
plus i would sleeve and canshaft for better lift i don't have the vetec </TD></TR></TABLE>

If the engine is that weak to not hold boost , then why are you trying to bolt on some stuff to get 200hp . All F-series motors come with cast iron sleeves and your block should hold 250hp . Without sleeving the block . Since you have cast iron sleeves you can throw some better pistons in there and maybe some acl bearings. Thats all I would do . You really dont even have to do that to achieve 200hp on boost. Camshaft isnt going to give you that much power to make a difference. Its not a 50hp upgrade. Vtec means nothing when your boosted. Look . I know someone who has your exact motor and is boosted with a dsm turbo kit. 17psi @ 250 hp . All stock . The car is fast !! .

And if your not sure about boosting , get the H22. Spend the 1000-1500 for 200hp . But dont think about boosting that motor with out sleeves. For 1500 you should be well in the 200 range for power with a turbo !!! . Also if your budget it. You might get away with 1000-1200. Or go all out with 3500 on a complete bolt on Turbonetics kit.

TURBO TURBO TURBO !!!!!




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Old May 27, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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hey since you know about accords with knowledge i have 97 accord dx this forum for friend but see mine is tune it revs at 900revs idle thats how tune. but my question why does it feel like the car can't go over 80mph it like feels like the pedalon foot i feel no power gain. i know it's radom but figure you would know is it the govener
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Old May 27, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey well i was thinkin if i got an f22a1 which has 140hp and i add from tas parts
intake manifold
throttle body
intake short ram
megan headers
apexi exhaust
down pipe
igintion kit from msd
pulleys
new camshafts also from tas
and an ecu

i could make 200 hp what you guys think</TD></TR></TABLE>

Down pipes are only for turbo'd cars thats the piece that connects the exhaust side of the turbo to the rest of the exhaust. You can buy it if you really please tho &lt;-- lol
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Old May 27, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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maybe the down pipe is the A=pipe. In which would be supplied with the headers. So why buy 2 ? ?? ? ? ? ? ?? ?
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Old May 27, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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You will not get 200HP from those mods. The first thing you should consider is a head swap (H23 or F22B DOHC are fairly straight forward and simple, with cam regrinds available). Milling it would also be a good idea to bump your compression up. The EX exhaust manifold is arguably as good as a DC or Megan header. You should look into Bisi's headers if you are serious. As for intake manifold H23 should be sufficient. ITBs would be something else to consider. Ignition system and fuel injectors should not be necessary. You will want some sort of real tuning. Look into Hondata or Uberdata. Honestly turbocharging would be much better, and likely cheaper to reach your goals. You will get not only horsepower, but torque to match. The low compression, iron sleeves, and longer gears of the transmission make it a prime candidate for boost. The sleeves can handle far more than what was previously mentioned in this thread. On a good tune the stock bottom end is capable of handling close to 300HP/300TQ.

HTH
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