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Old May 24, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Could anyone tell me if you can use LS rods in a d-series motor? Thats what I heard. You can use them if they are shaved. Is this true and if it is where do they need to be shaved at? Also can Suzuki Vitara pistons be used? (Heard that too)
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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BAH! Ive heard of no such rubbish!
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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thats balony sir! Bseries internals in a Dseries motor? BALONY!
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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ive heard of the ls rods being swapped. there was a thread on here somewhere that discussed it in detail. all i can say is look around. its really not worth the amount of time you will have in it. but if thats what you have your heart set on, look around and find that thread
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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I was just wondering I read it on either turbo civic.com forum or the d-series.org forum, can't remember. I am new to the hondas so I didnt know. I WAS a chevy man.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PinoyxEJ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats balony sir! Bseries internals in a Dseries motor? BALONY!
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Buy forged internals and get it over with.

You can use Suzuki pistons, not sure on the LS rods.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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LS rods will fit on the crank but will shoot out the top of the block.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Can any one pint me in the right direction for pistons ,rods or any internals. If you can please let me know of some websights.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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google.com to search or nopi.com (where I get alot of my aftermarket parts from)
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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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i heard from someone that ls rods can be used, but do some research just to make sure
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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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alamoautosports.com ... just got mine in today
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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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the rods are the same length, but I think they are too wide at the base where the connect to the crank. they need to be milled a little thinner.

I've heard of the suzuki pistons being used too. they aren't forged though. I don't know what the benefit of using them is.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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wrist pin diameter is different.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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you can use them with little modification, check out d-series.org or turbod16.com

plenty of setups with ls rods
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Old May 24, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PinoyxEJ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats balony sir! Bseries internals in a Dseries motor? BALONY!</TD></TR></TABLE>

looks like you got owned yourself...
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:02 AM
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THAT IS TOTALLY BALONY! (B.A.L.O.N.Y!) RoFL
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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The LS rods can be used...

I think the crank side is the same as well as the length.

I think Crower actually sells a bushing for the top where the wrist pin goes.

Sift through this. There is lots of info here:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1643764
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:13 AM
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you can use the older ls rods. they are much stronger than the stock d-series one. i believe it to be the d16a1 ls rods. comes from the 87-89 older integras. i've use them before. i've used the rods and pistons... give you a high compression motor in a honda d16 motor. pulls pretty damn good too.

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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:43 AM
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are these threads really seriously still going on..??

it seems like every day now theres a new person who didnt learn the search button, an wants internals from a different honda into their honda...

u could just order some eagle rods, an vitara pistons, have no fitment issues, no wrist pin issues, and have a piston/rod combo that will blow any stock rod/piston setup out of the fukcin water.... IMO...
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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Its more trouble than its worth. After all the machining cost you could have bought yourself a cheap set of tunertoys rods or scat and have forged rods instead of ls rods.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delslo93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its more trouble than its worth. After all the machining cost you could have bought yourself a cheap set of tunertoys rods or scat and have forged rods instead of ls rods.</TD></TR></TABLE>

we're on the same page
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BAH! Ive heard of no such rubbish!</TD></TR></TABLE>

newbian all these 06-07 maybe you guys should do more research instead

as stated it can be used

Vitara pistons can also be used and have been proven to work past 400+hp. cheap too. you can usually find a set around 100 bucks.

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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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D-series have a shorter stroke, thats why they produce better hp/tq ratios
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Skunk.Werks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">D-series have a shorter stroke, thats why they produce better hp/tq ratios</TD></TR></TABLE>

wait im pretty sure you have this completely opposite...

D16 has LONGER stroke ratio which is why it provides better Torque then B series motors.
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