Pcv and Black Box for Turbo

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Old May 23, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Okay I've done alot of reading archived stuff on here and TurboD16.com. So from what I understand is that you can drill a hole through your PCV or totaly remove it.

Which is this one here.


Then you just plug Intake Manifold side of the line and run the line that would have gone to the Intake to one port on your catch can. Then run the other port on your catch can to the Vent on the Valve Cover here.


Okay if that is all correct then this next picture shows the black box and the line going to the PCV from under the Intake Mani. Is there only one hose coming from the box, and do I have to do anything with that box like remove it or hollow it out or anything? Does it just bolt to a port on the back of the block or what?
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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your post confused me...can't you just take the line from you VC run it to the CC and then a line from the CC to the PCV?
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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That is what I just said. I may have confused you because I'm still a little confused myself. Hence the post. That should work but either hollow out the pcv or remove it all together. The PCV system doesn't stop at the PCV it goes down through the PCV to a black box.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec91hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> That should work but either hollow out the pcv or remove it all together.</TD></TR></TABLE> why not just leave it in? Why not just leave it in? it is working the same as if you have the lines normal (into intake arm, and out IM), but now you are just using a catch can. I believe (someone please correct me if i am wron) you can just leave it stock and attach the lines... LMK i plan to boost with that catch can setup soon
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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No you can't just leave it in. I am 99% sure that you have to hollow it out or remove it all together. It takes Vaccume to make the PCV work right, since you will be running the line from the PCV to the CC instead of the Vaccume source on the IM and back in for combustion you have to modify it to release the gasses.

Someone please help correct me if I am wrong!
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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idk about the pcv problem on the manifold but i do know that the "black box" you are referring to is the oil breather chamber and it does need vacuum to work properly.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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in for an answer
the black box is hollow and just bolts to the block with one port to the block and a hose to the PCV.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by garageEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in for an answer
the black box is hollow and just bolts to the block with one port to the block and a hose to the PCV.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay that answers one question. I belive I am right and don't really want to start another BS thread but I just want a straight answer! Thanks for the help so far guys.

*edit* Maybe I should have posted this in the FI forum!


Modified by sohcvtec91hatch at 4:42 PM 5/23/2007
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Old May 23, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Okay so after searching for a while tonight I found this posted in the FI FAQ
This QUOTE comes from Dasher, the creator of the thread. He has done much research and tried several different set ups.

Quote, originally posted by Quagmire »

1. I have come to the understanding that, with a D-series, you don't have to fool around with the block and freeze plugs. You can just use the line coming out of the separator box right?


Dasher-
Yes. You don't have to fool around with freeze plugs on B-series either. Their is more than one way to arrange your setup.

Quote, originally posted by Quagmire »

2. Using the general setups in my diagram, do you keep or discard the PCV valve?


Dasher-
Discard. The PCV valve was designed to work with the Intake manifold and is restrictive.

Quote, originally posted by Quagmire »

3. Which setup (A B C) is best?


Dasher-
This depends upon the amount of blow-by and pressure created in your crankcase. Diagram B is the only setup which is capable of inducing vacuum in the crankcase if the pressure in the crankcase does not exceed 0.5 psi--- Doubtful. I would suggest option A or C because it allows for excess pressure to escape when needed and will allow the crankcase to ventilate under low load conditions more easily.

One thing to keep in mind when using the Intake(pre-turbo) as a vacuum source is to make sure the catch can is heavily baffled and drain it often.

This was found on page 7 about ten posts down, Also on page 6 they talk about the open atmosphere catch can about halfway down or so. Here is the link https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1 I hope this helps. It takes a while to read it all but I don't want to blow out any seals under boost and neither do you!
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